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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:59 am Reply with quote
Translation: We are so gonna f*** this up royally. I mean, really f*** it up like what we did to the Street Fighter franchise.
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Primus



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:33 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Translation: We are so gonna f*** this up royally. I mean, really f*** it up like what we did to the Street Fighter franchise.


There was a CW Street Fighter show? Did Kristen Kreuk reprise her role as Chun-li or something?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:56 am Reply with quote
No. Translation is actually there is none. It's exactly what it says. It's bascily nothing more then an idea right now.

Why anime fans feel the need to be negative about any American adaptation of a Japanese work I don't get. I hate to tell you, the Japanese's shit stinks as much as the Americans and theres no reason why an American adaption would be bad. Would a CW version cut down on the violence? Yep, but that's not all there is to BR and there's no reason good direction can't imply the violence and be as effective. Would a CW version dial on the teen angst? Maybe, buy not like the Japanese movie didn't already do that to the book. You all remember that that great Japanese movie ends basically with the point of "adults bad"?
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:06 am Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
Why anime fans feel the need to be negative about any American adaptation of a Japanese work I don't get.


Cause the differences between Japanese Entertainment and US Entertainment are sometimes miles apart?

I can guarantee you they will have to do massive edits to the basic premise of BR for the USA. One of the more enduring legends is that BR was banned in the USA cause of Columbine. And the depiction of kids killing each other (save for specific circumstances, like a crime drama for example) is a taboo subject in the USA.

Several of the characters would not be suitable for US airplay. spoiler[Mitsuko is the obvious choice for getting cut is given her background of being a slut due to the multiple rapes she had inflicted on her since when she was young. And you know how the US loves sexual based themes of that sort.....]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:38 am Reply with quote
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Cause the differences between Japanese Entertainment and US Entertainment are sometimes miles apart?
Which really has nothing to do with BR, unless you think American's don't understand teen angst and the themes sourding teenagers. I hate to tell you, but the themes of BR are not some uniquly unversial thing. And it's not like western civilization hasn't delt with them before. There's you know Lord of the Flies and then the even more sufrace similair hollywood blockbuster, The Hungar Games.

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I can guarantee you they will have to do massive edits to the basic premise of BR for the USA.
What? The basic premise of kids having to kill other kids? Oh no maybe the American version will make it less comicaly corny then the Japanese version. The actual theme of BR, which is Trust(in the book it's the entire point Br exists, to break trust) and how much a person according to thier backbround and other elements is able to trust a person in times a survival would not have to be editied at all. You claim that they would have to edit down the fact that Mitsuko's backstory and how she was unable to trust anyone because even her mother sold her into sexual trade and how that has twisted how she sees people? Um exuse me? How would that have to be edited down? Even the mainstream Law and Order deals with teen rape and teen sexual assualt. Hell the way it's depectied in the movie is extrmley tame compared to on air televesion. I really doubt that would be a problem.

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One of the more enduring legends is that BR was banned in the USA cause of Columbine.
It was never banned. The license was too demanding for an American distributor. And if so I doubt anyone would release something like BR after that, just like anyone would want to release an Earthquake movie in Japan soon after it's earthquake.

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And the depiction of kids killing each other (save for specific circumstances, like a crime drama for example) is a taboo subject in the USA.
Yet the Hunger Game's exist. And yet horror movies are filled to the brim with teenagers killing other teenagers. Oh no maybe the US version has to make the class actually be 18 year old senior's in High School. I doubt that would hurt the movie.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:15 am Reply with quote
I don't think a TV would have any problem airing here at all. The big issue is how they'll rewrite it to take place in the US, considering how the whole thing is based around a what-if scenario where Japan never lost WWII. Did they change that in the movies and the manga?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:17 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Several of the characters would not be suitable for US airplay. spoiler[Mitsuko is the obvious choice for getting cut is given her background of being a slut due to the multiple rapes she had inflicted on her since when she was young. And you know how the US loves sexual based themes of that sort.....]


Considering a lot of the stuff that airs on the CW right now, I doubt this will be the issue. Honestly if they do a remake for the CW, you'll see a reduction in violence and more of an alteration of the students and the school itself (the theme of the kids rebelling as a whole will probably be done differently). You will see an Americanization of the backstory, but that's the point of the remake I suppose.

I'd be interested to see a BR remake. The best part about this is, unlike remaking an anime into live action, if it does end up disappointing me, I always have the Japanese live action to return to! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:14 am Reply with quote
A BR TV show could be pretty awesome...just...not on the CW.
If a station like HBO or AMC got a hold of it and kept it closer to the book, it could make for a really good TV show.
A TV show could avoid the major flaw of the movie - that quite a few of the minor characters aren't even really introduced. A lot of the kids are killed before we can find anything out about them, and a TV series could flesh out these characters a bit more.
It would be nice to have a bit of the cheesiness cut back a bit too. spoiler[The scene where Chigusa dies and Sugimura tells her that she's the coolest girl is one of the worst offenders.] His acting is so cheesy that I cringe every time I watch that scene.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:14 am Reply with quote
I dunno, I think CW is kinda perfect for this. It's a young, hip, network, and if you look at things like The L.A. Complex, they're really pushing it with what they're airing in terms of sex and even some violence. The premium channels would just have tons of violence and boobs, which is great, but what I think CW can bring to the table is that glossy, satirical teenage drama that makes Battle Royale so delicious! I would love a juicy CW-produced version of Battle Royale!
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Son Gokou



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:09 pm Reply with quote
Oh no oh no oh no! I hope it doesn't go on through. Especially if it does come out, some people might say... Oh look a Hunger Games clone/wannabe. Even though we all know the BR novel came first.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:00 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, because gladiatorial games and dystopian worlds is such an amazingly original and unheard of concept. Maybe BR came first, but ancient Rome and other similarly operating societies all came long before; stop pretending this is some amazingly new and unique concept Takami created because it really isn't and has existed in both reality and fiction for centuries.
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dewlwieldthedarpachief



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:41 pm Reply with quote
Keonyn wrote:
Yeah, because gladiatorial games and dystopian worlds is such an amazingly original and unheard of concept. Maybe BR came first, but ancient Rome and other similarly operating societies all came long before; stop pretending this is some amazingly new and unique concept Takami created because it really isn't and has existed in both reality and fiction for centuries.


I agree, I think people choosing that to make a fuss about are missing the big picture. The opportunity any remake has to do something inventive is certainly there, but at the same time it's a hard sell to someone who's already quite satisfied, and I would say justifiably so, with that first movie. It's not like Ringu where the original was alright and that American remake was left plenty of room for improvement; it's the swan song of a fantastic filmmaker that's on the chopping block for localisation. It's hard not to be just a little bitter about that.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:15 pm Reply with quote
Rahxephon91 wrote:
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One of the more enduring legends is that BR was banned in the USA cause of Columbine.
It was never banned.


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