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NEWS: Eureka Seven AO BD to Have English Subs in Japan

1. With the Fate/Zero box set they're releasing the "special edition" for around $500 (about $379 or so on Right Stuf). So does this mean there's going to be a more affordable "regular edition" released sometime in the future?

2. I understand that most of the news we're discussing now pertains to Blu-Ray releases. Will there be any DVD releases as well? If so what could be expected from them, price and content-wise?

3. Once either version is released will they be available on more accessible sites such as Amazon.com or would I have to purchase them through a Japanese site?

Majin Tenshi wrote:

luffypirate85 wrote: Majin Tenshi wrote: Sigh ! if only the Zeta Gundam Movies and Saint Seiya Omega would have sub as well Didn't BV confirm that the Z Gundam box coming on May 25th is to have English subtitles?? It only lists Japanese sub on their website. I hope that they will include English sub else why would Age and Seed have and Zeta doesn't

Hey man here's that article. It says that the Gundam movies coming out on the 25th are going to have the subs. The only ones listed for that day are the Zeta ones. Think it just might be unlisted on the specs?

I shamefully admit that I haven't been keeping up with this new trend in anime distribution so I have to ask a couple of dumb questions here:

1. With the Fate/Zero box set they're releasing the "special edition" for around $500 (about $379 or so on Right Stuf). So does this mean there's going to be a more affordable "regular edition" released sometime in the future?

Due to licensing restrictions, this product can only be shipped to the United States and Canada.

2. I understand that most of the news we're discussing now pertains to Blu-Ray releases. Will there be any DVD releases as well? If so what could be expected from them, price and content-wise?

3. Once either version is released will they be available on more accessible sites such as Amazon.com or would I have to purchase them through a Japanese site?

Your timely assistance is most appreciated.

The whole line about having to think hard before I invest a small fortune in this series was utter BS. I'll be pre-ordering the first volume the moment that option becomes available. I'm just trying to get all my ducks in a row before then.

These are the original 0079 DVDs, which were re-issued. Noting that they already included English sub for the previous release as well as the 20th anniversary release.

I'm 90% confident we will get a release sometime in mid 2013. From Funi or Sentai.

If Japanese Anime companies released DVDs at "normal prices," there wouldn't be anymore Anime today.

Be thankful that there are enough Japanese otaku willing to pay inordinate prices for Anime. They're the ones actually keeping the industry alive right now.

"Change is blashemous to the Japanese!" .... Except its (alleged) "change" that people are throwing a hissy fit over in this thread. And the R1 releases they've allowed have changed and gotten cheaper. And they're allowing more and more anime to be viewed legally in R1 at the same or close to the same time as it is in Japan. And the "change" I mentioned that prompted your bizarre, reality-detached reply? Oh yeah, they're already doing that with Gundam Age. .

krystallinity wrote:

Be thankful that there are enough Japanese otaku willing to pay inordinate prices for Anime. They're the ones actually keeping the industry alive right now.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have argument suicide!
"Be thankful" is another way of saying "I have no faith in what I'm saying so I'll just throw my weight into forcing my argumentative opponent into pacifism with good manners and hope he goes away with his mean ideas about common frickin' sense"

The Japanese market is not one of winning or loosing, it's one of stagnation and just existing. If you want to just exist and pay though your nose to do so, that's your call.

Me, if you try to sell me anything more than 50$ a half season (cour) I'll just look right through you.

Conan-san wrote:

krystallinity wrote: Be thankful that there are enough Japanese otaku willing to pay inordinate prices for Anime. They're the ones actually keeping the industry alive right now. Ladies and gentlemen, we have argument suicide! "Be thankful" is another way of saying "I have no faith in what I'm saying so I'll just throw my weight into forcing my argumentative opponent into pacifism with good manners and hope he goes away with his mean ideas about common frickin' sense"

Except the second part of the statement is certainly true. Without the Japanese otaku paying the inordinate prices for Anime, the industry would be much smaller today.

Conan-san wrote:

The Japanese market is not one of winning or loosing, it's one of stagnation and just existing. If you want to just exist and pay though your nose to do so, that's your call.

Notice that this is a faith-based argument. "It's one of stagnation and just existing" does do anything to establish that there is the revenue just sitting out there, available to be tapped to replace the revenues from the current model ...
... but without faith in the existence of that big untapped supply of revenue out there, the direct opposite to "stagnation and survival" is actually "catastrophe and collapse".

Conan-san wrote:

Me, if you try to sell me anything more than 50$ a half season (cour) I'll just look right through you.

That's true for the very large majority of Japanese as well. Indeed, the majority of Japanese don't watch anime at all. A minority watch on TV or rent or watch bootlegs. A very tiny minority collect discs. For a large portion of the market, that very tiny minority collecting discs are the source of the revenue that is the difference between "stagnation and survival" and "catastrophe and collapse".

If there were 50,000 North Americans willing to buy the typical mid-tier anime series at $50 per quarterly-season, then at 30% net revenue that would be $5m gross for a two quarterly series, or $1.5m net revenue. If the net revenue ended up being split 50:50 between licensor and licensee, that would be $750,000 in license income to Japan. Even for a $3m per quarterly-season series, there's 1/8 of your production cost covered from just one international market. Add that to a series just breaking even, and now its making a healthy profit of 12.5%.

If there are 5,000, scale that down by 1/10, trim the royalties available due to less competition for licenses, and there's 0.5% to 1% of your production cost covered from that one international market. Add that to a series just about breaking even, and basically its still just about breaking even.

So if the person with the behavior of "I'll pay $50 for a big share of the output each year, but not one penny more" has 49,999 people that behave the same way, that's a force to be reckoned with. If they have 4,999 people that behave the same way, its more like a little extra money, might as well take it if it doesn't interfere with the market that pays the bills and keeps the lights on.

So you're telling me that Japan exclusively consists of those 3000 otaku? That, at no point, if a show was available at a not silly rate someone wouldn't walk into ye olde HMV and think, "Hum, Wakfu (Being hypothetical here, humour me) I heard good things, let's try it!"?

It's simple, the "Untapped supply of revenue" is right there, they just don't want to sell their limbs to the mob to afford it.

Also your argument reads as thus;
"Oh no, having X Thousand buying our things isn't working! I Know! Let's have X hundred buying our things instead and drive everyone else away by charging through the nose for it, that's going to work!"

That might "fly" in Japan (Because, remember "Change" is blasphemy) but I grantee you it would blow up as it did for Bandai Visual US if that became the ur model for physical anime distro in R1 and R2pal.

Seriously, how many anime DVDs in the US actually reached 10,000 unit mark?

Indeed, the majority of Japanese don't watch anime at all. A minority watch on TV or rent or watch bootlegs. A very tiny minority collect discs. For a large portion of the market, that very tiny minority collecting discs are the source of the revenue that is the difference between "stagnation and survival" and "catastrophe and collapse".

I legitimately wonder if publishing a lot of moe shit at the near exclusivity of almost anything worth a damn actively counts as "Surviving" but being told to be grateful for that is pretty freaking egregious.

agila61 wrote:

Conan-san wrote: The Japanese market is not one of winning or loosing, it's one of stagnation and just existing. If you want to just exist and pay though your nose to do so, that's your call. Notice that this is a faith-based argument. "It's one of stagnation and just existing" does do anything to establish that there is the revenue just sitting out there, available to be tapped to replace the revenues from the current model ... ... but without faith in the existence of that big untapped supply of revenue out there, the direct opposite to "stagnation and survival" is actually "catastrophe and collapse".

So you're telling me that Japan exclusively consists of those 3000 otaku?

That, at no point, if a show was available at a not silly rate someone wouldn't walk into ye olde HMV and think, "Hum, Wakfu (Being hypothetical here, humour me) I heard good things, let's try it!"?

Aniplex can say what they please. Not unlike a child who plays chicken constantly, it will only take one mistake to turn them into a mess.