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Ryu Shoji
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:03 pm
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Almost quarter of a million? That's really cool. Not sure how I'd feel about buying 9 volumes though (doesn't the first volume only contain the first episode?. Luckily, Viz'll probably release it in 2 sets.
For the last few years, I've noticed that the number 27 has been following me for quite some time. So here we go:
Tiger & Bunny's 9th and final blu-ray volume was released in Japan on 27th January, selling 21,757 copies.
Take the first and last numbers of the amount sold - 2 and 7. Makes 27.
Then with the remaining 1, 7 and 5 - subtract the 5 from the 7 and add the one, giving you 3.
Take that 3 and multiply it by the number of the final volume (9) - then you get 27.
To use up all the numbers, take 2012. Multiply one 2 by 1 then add 0, then subtract the other 2.
27, 27, 27. There's 3 27s. What's 3 squared? 27.
And people say I'm crazy...
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Hannish Lightning
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:04 pm
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Maybe this will prove to anime studios that 9/10ths of every season doesn't have to be filled generic moe and loli anime.
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maaya
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:06 pm
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Hannish Lightning wrote: | Maybe this will prove to anime studios that 9/10ths of every season doesn't have to be filled generic moe and loli anime. |
I certainly hope so. They mentionned in an interview that they had problems getting sponsors for T&B, because few people believed in its commercial potential. So now I'm hoping for a bit more diversity in animes again.
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Chagen46
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:08 pm
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Hannish Lightning wrote: | Maybe this will prove to anime studios that 9/10ths of every season doesn't have to be filled generic moe and loli anime. |
But, you see, creating a show like Tiger&Bunny takes effort, and why expend effort when you can make moeshit and get nearly as much?
(I actually like Moe a lot--being a rather new fan, it's what I was raised in--but sometimes enough is enough)
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Surrender Artist
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:09 pm
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It's heartening to see something like this succeed. I'm quite interested in getting a chance to see it whenever Viz gets around to making that feasible. I hope that it succeeds in the United States as well.
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Hannish Lightning
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:11 pm
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Surrender Artist wrote: | It's heartening to see something like this succeed. I'm quite interested in getting a chance to see it whenever Viz gets around to making that feasible. I hope that it succeeds in the United States as well. |
I hope so too. But, I am going to wait until all the dvds are out because I don't trust Viz's competency at all.
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GVentola
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:20 pm
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Ryu Shoji wrote: | Almost quarter of a million? That's really cool. Not sure how I'd feel about buying 9 volumes though (doesn't the first volume only contain the first episode?. Luckily, Viz'll probably release it in 2 sets.
For the last few years, I've noticed that the number 27 has been following me for quite some time. So here we go:
Tiger & Bunny's 9th and final blu-ray volume was released in Japan on 27th January, selling 21,757 copies.
Take the first and last numbers of the amount sold - 2 and 7. Makes 27.
Then with the remaining 1, 7 and 5 - subtract the 5 from the 7 and add the one, giving you 3.
Take that 3 and multiply it by the number of the final volume (9) - then you get 27.
To use up all the numbers, take 2012. Multiply one 2 by 1 then add 0, then subtract the other 2.
27, 27, 27. There's 3 27s. What's 3 squared? 27.
And people say I'm crazy... |
27 is Weird Al's special number, too!
I can't wait for Tiger & Bunny to come out so I can add it to my personal collection. It's five star all the way, baby!
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ArsenicSteel
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:25 pm
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Hannish Lightning wrote: | Maybe this will prove to anime studios that 9/10ths of every season doesn't have to be filled generic moe and loli anime. |
Gainax and Shaft have been proving that for years. That doesn't stop people who are interested in making moe and loli shows from turning a profit though.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:30 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: | But, you see, creating a show like Tiger&Bunny takes effort, and why expend effort when you can make moeshit and get nearly as much? |
Hell, there was a show with literally no effort called Uta no Prince-sama. And it had sales comparable to Tiger & Bunny. The success of both is due to fujoshi buying power.
Having an incredibly well-made anime but not targeting either otaku or fujoshi pretty much just makes it doomed to fail. Let's take Another for example. It may not be a masterpiece, but it is certainly a show from a reputable studio (PA Works) and so far seems to be a pretty decent mystery series. It is currently doing horribly in terms in pre-order sales. Just miserably. Now by comparison, something like High School DxD, which is much easier to make, is currently doing rather well in pre-orders, miles ahead of Another.
Shows sell well because they pander to either otaku and/or fujoshi. There is no other way around that. There isn't any 'casual' fan that will drop tens of thousands of yen to collect TV anime. Only fanatics will do that. And it's those fanatics on which the entirety of the late-night TV anime market is based upon.
Tiger & Bunny was a huge success in Japan because it was a huge hit with fujoshi (or if you prefer, female otaku). The same can be said with UtaPri. And the same can be said for many titles you would deem as 'moeshit' in that they sell well because they are a huge hit with otaku.
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Chagen46
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:34 pm
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Quote: | Tiger & Bunny was a huge success in Japan because it was a huge hit with fujoshi (or if you prefer, female otaku). The same can be said with UtaPri. And the same can be said for many titles you would deem as 'moeshit' in that they sell well because they are a huge hit with otaku. |
Hey, I AM an Otaku. One of my favorite anime is Strike Witches, for god's sake (though in that case it's more "I hate you so much but I keep watching you for some screwed-up reason").
Hell, I'm a Fudanshi as well (male equivalent to Fujoshi).
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TitanXL
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:37 pm
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Megiddo wrote: | Having an incredibly well-made anime but not targeting either otaku or fujoshi pretty much just makes it doomed to fail. Let's take Another for example. It may not be a masterpiece, but it is certainly a show from a reputable studio (PA Works) and so far seems to be a pretty decent mystery series. It is currently doing horribly in terms in pre-order sales. Just miserably. Now by comparison, something like High School DxD, which is much easier to make, is currently doing rather well in pre-orders, miles ahead of Another.
Shows sell well because they pander to either otaku and/or fujoshi. There is no other way around that. There isn't any 'casual' fan that will drop tens of thousands of yen to collect TV anime. Only fanatics will do that. And it's those fanatics on which the entirety of the late-night TV anime market is based upon. |
And yet Nichijou bombed.
It's almost like there's no real pattern or formula, because if there was, then every company would copy it and never lose money ever again.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:45 pm
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Nichijou bombed mostly because it didn't pander (enough) to otaku. There are no moe girls in the show. The jokes are not all that otaku-focused (compare with Lucky Star or Bakemonogatari for instance). It also had a horrible (on wallets) release of 12 or 13 singles, although I certainly didn't hear otaku whine about that with Lucky Star whose release was almost identical. I wonder why.
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TitanXL
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:54 pm
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How is Konata more "moe" than Hakase or Nano or anyone?
Actually, we should probably define "moe" and how it's measured in numerical quantities first.
And K-ON wasn't exactly filled with 'otaku jokes' either.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:57 pm
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Konata? Absolutely not. She's the otaku that otaku can insert themselves as and/or relate with. Miyuki? Yep. Tsukasa? Absolutely. Kagami? You better believe it. K-ON mostly did stupid, basic comedy. Its draw is pretty much 100% the characters. Maybe 90% characters and 10% music.
Hakase and Nano are supporting characters who get maybe 1/4 the screentime at most. Compare that to Lucky Star or K-ON which practically always has their 'moe' cast on screen.
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pajmo9
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:40 pm
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I'm glad to see the chances they took with this show paid off. It just feels so different from other shows I've seen these past few years. I really enjoyed it.
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