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supercreep



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:02 pm Reply with quote
I have a technical, possibly stupid question: if an anime has, say, 24 episodes, does that mean that it is two seasons long? I'm not really sure how this all works.
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EireformContinent



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:11 pm Reply with quote
IMHO no- the series are defined by breaks between them.
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supercreep



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:14 pm Reply with quote
How long of a break would it take? I ask because there is a short break between the last episode of Future Diary and the next one, and while I wouldn't assume that to be a season break I believe it was said that the season ended in the latest Stream column.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:26 pm Reply with quote
One week break is pretty normal when TV channel needs timeslot for special program or have other extraordinary reasons. Time for new series usually cover with turn of the seasons in real world and they are charts with plans of all new series to be aired.
Division for series depends on producer who announces how many of them are intended to be. IIRC there was no such announcement for Mirai Nikki.

Edit: OK, seen the article. For the sake of convenience author divided whole year into equal 12 weeks seasons. There's a point in it, hoverer it seems forced to me- there are compared series that have different length and pace and it has nothing to do with arcs or state of the plot. You can divide for example 52 episode Erin into 4 or 2 seasons, but why bother to divide something that was produced as a whole?
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NegativeGate



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:00 pm Reply with quote
As far as I can tell there is no technically correct answer, some as has been said are produced as a whole with no dividing line to tell you it a separate season or not, but then there are others that completely make no sense in there division. for example at one point in hayate (52 episodes i think) Klaus says there already on season four, but then the remake thingy is billed as season 2.

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supercreep



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:22 pm Reply with quote
hmmm, okay. Thanks for your help.
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:35 pm Reply with quote
A lot of the time, the term "season" is thrown around for whatever seems to work for the company adding it on.

A US TV season is roughly 22 episodes, usually weekly from September/October until May, with reruns interspersed within.

In Japan, they have 4 "cour", which are their seasonal equivalent, and roughly 13 weeks. Usually a show will run for 1 or more cour, so they'll have 13, 26, 39 (these seem rarer to me), or 52 episodes, give or take a few for bonus episodes or skipped weeks. It's not uncommon to see shows with 12, 24, 25, 49, 50 episodes, depending on how things work.

Once upon a time, for US releases at least, 26 (or so) was considered a season, and that would be 6-8 DVDs with a box, and if it ran for 50-52 episodes, it would have a a second box for the next set of DVDs.

It's a little more confusing now, with the half-series boxes, since shows like Gundam 0079 (2 sets with a total of 42 [+1] episodes) aren't broken into seasons, but other shows like Carnival Phantasm (3 "seasons" of 4 episodes each) or Fate/Zero (2 13-episode "seasons") which just muddle stuff up.

What makes things even more confusing, is when the US and Japanese companies disagree. Super Sentai, for example, considers each series the same as a season. Samurai Sentai Shinkenger ran for 49 episodes, and is considered a single season. It's adaptation, Power Rangers Samurai, has been broken into two 20-episode seasons (total of 40 episodes).

Really, when it comes down to it, the term "season" doesn't really fit well with anime. That's why a lot of people have started using "cour" to refer to a 13-episode block, so if a series has 24-26 episodes, they're "2 cour". I think most people still use the old "26 episodes is 1 season" and use 13-episode series as "half seasons", or they break seasons where there's a notable change in the story arc (for example, Sailor Moon, SMR, SMS, SMSuperS, SMStars, or the different Saga's in Dragonball Z). More commonly, people have started using "season" to mean what's currently on (Fall season, winter season, etc), rather than the length of the shows.
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supercreep



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:59 pm Reply with quote
Thanks for the major clarification. I always had this inkling that anime seasons were more complicated than American television but I never knew just how complicated.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:05 pm Reply with quote
you should never think a season = 13 eps.

Some anime like Fate Zero can take a break and then finish it later.
as for Mirai Nikki, there will be no break, there was no new episode last week because of holiday.

as for hayate, the first 52 episodes is consider as season 1 in Japan, but sometimes American viewers like to break it into many season because they don't think a season would be that long or use some kind of American tv logic.

season 2 is 25 episodes, Season 3 is coming this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:21 pm Reply with quote
As others have said:

If someone refers to a 'season' and they don't mean a season of the year (Spring, Winter et cetera), then that can be any length of episodes. But a 'cour' specifically refers to a block of episodes roughly eleven-to-thirteen episodes long, and it matches the seasons of the year. Thus, one 'season' can be made out of two, three or even four cour. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood was five cour.

Mirai Nikki is one season long but two cour long. The reason there was a break is because of Christmas and New Year's, I thought that would have been obvious.
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ArsenicSteel



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:00 pm Reply with quote
I just go by what the producers or broadcasters regard as seasons or sets.

First 52 episodes of Hayate = Season 1
First 51 episodes of D Grayman = Season 1
First 62 episodes of One Piece = Season 1
First 25 episodes of Code Geass = Season 1

It even works for anime that have shorter durations and/or breaks between productions.

First 13 episodes of K-ON! and Working!! = season 1(KyoAni and A-1 must have not heard to never refer to 13 episodes as 1 season)


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supercreep



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:00 pm Reply with quote
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Mirai Nikki is one season long but two cour long. The reason there was a break is because of Christmas and New Year's, I thought that would have been obvious.


Yes, well, I never questioned the REASON for the break. I was only curious why in the recent stream column the author said that the season was ending.

You're right, it was obvious. So obvious that I didn't ask or need clarification on that point.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:09 pm Reply with quote
supercreep wrote:
You're right, it was obvious. So obvious that I didn't ask or need clarification on that point.


Good to know you've realised and accepted the truth. Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case shame on you.

ArsenicSteel wrote:
First 26 episodes of Code Geass = Season 1


Where did you get this from? Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion ran for twenty-five episodes (two of them being recaps) and then had two further episodes released several months later which ended the season. Plus there was a series compilation. But that's still twenty-five episodes in the season, not twenty-six.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:16 pm Reply with quote
If it helps, the name will often change when a new "season" has started. Sailor Moon has already been mentioned (Sailor Moon, Sailor Moon R, Sailor Moon S, Sailor Moon SuperS, and Sailor Stars being the 5 different seasons) and there are others as well (Vampire Knight and Vampire Knight Guilty; Gunslinger Girl and Gunslinger Girl: Il Teatrino, for example).
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ArsenicSteel



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:21 pm Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
ArsenicSteel wrote:
First 26 episodes of Code Geass = Season 1


Where did you get this from? Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion ran for twenty-five episodes (two of them being recaps)


I got it from the land of typos and spelling mistakes.
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