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totalgeek
Posts: 307 Location: Raleigh, NC |
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It seems like any anime that has battle sequences is bound to have some (or most) that span at least one episode, if not several. And why do the opponents spend so much time talking to one another?
Every fight I've ever been a part of (only 4 or 5, really) lasted no longer than 5 minutes. We spent a minute or two yelling at each other, threw a few punches, perhaps wrestled to the ground, and the fight was over. To watch a typical anime fight you would think that Asians hardly ever swing a sword or throw a punch, and instead do nothing but talk. I can imagine Ghengis Khan and his hordes riding into a town and giving long winded lectures until the residents gave up and said, "You know what? Screw it, just take the damn town!" All the yapping takes up way too much time. One Piece and Inuyasha (just to name two) would have been about a third shorter, at least, if everybody would just shut up and fight! |
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final sage of fantas
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The only ones that last long are the ones that are over 50 episodes(DBz and Inuyasha) Most arent long.
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Steventheeunuch
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Drama, and streching a budget.
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cyrax777
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I've noticed that with Naruto Fight that took like one page gets a whole ep or 2. |
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coldfusion5050
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Plus, if its a good action show, they can through in some nice choreography, animation, and lots of pretty colors.
One of the reasons I watched DBZ all the way through was to, more or less, see all of the pretty colors and explosions . . . I was such a rambunchous little child. |
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Larechar
 Posts: 2 Location: Gladstone, Oregon |
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idk y, but that's true, in Naruto, it pisses me off 'cause I wanna get to the next friggin' episode and ALL they do is talk, never fight...
mostly the crap w/ zabuza, that was the worst... |
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Aokage
 Posts: 160 Location: The Chaparral of California |
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Both Final Sage and Cyrax gave the best responses. In most cases, anime needs to be stretched out so that it doesn't catch up with the manga. Maintaining simultaneous schedules for the same plot in that fashion would prove daunting if not impossible. The other reason as already stated, is that longer series tend to have longer battles. If you watch an episode of Samurai Champloo or Cowboy Bebop, you can note that fights are typically short.
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cyrax777
Posts: 1825 Location: the desert |
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i guess they just dont want a repeat of what happened with Kenshin the anime surpassed the production of the manga and thats how we got the Christian arc, well atleasts thats how the story goes anyway.
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Perfectsword
 Posts: 527 Location: Somewhere in NY |
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It is only in a few series that that happens. In full metal panic the fights are over within the first fifteen minutes of the episode. Same in Iria, although they were fighting the same villan for the whole series.
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Necros Antiquor
 Posts: 571 Location: Funny in a car crash sort of way |
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Don't forget two things:
1. You're watching a fighting anime or an anime that centers around conflict that is resolved by fighting. Unless the focus is elsewhere, you're going to see a lot of fights. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a fighting anime. Whether it's plot-oriented fights or tournament-style fights, it's called a fighting anime for a reason. 2. A fighting manga is limited in how much story or action it can tell. Usually, a manga-ka only has 20 pages a week to work with, so the fights have to move along at a faster pace so readers don't get bored reading about the same fight for 6 months. Once this manga is adapted to an anime, however, not only does it have to avoid overtaking the manga (usually 2-4 manga chapters equal 1 anime episode), but it has the opportunity to expand on the fight that might have been purposely made short in the manga because of time limitations. Why do this? An overall flashier production and more time to tell the fight scene as a manga-ka might have wanted to in the first place. Oh, and I never thought the fight scenes in Inuyasha were too long. Most happen within one episode, and those that don't are usually multiple fights that are continually broken up by something happening. Either that, or the fight will basically be the second half of the first episode and the first half of the second episode, effectively giving you 1 episode of action split in half and paired with some plot in order to create better pacing and a cliffhanger. |
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Nirvana
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WHo cares/?!?!? fights are awesome... unless they talk or have flashbacks for 90% of the eps (ehrm Naruto)
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totalgeek
Posts: 307 Location: Raleigh, NC |
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Yeah, I'd have to say that Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop (among others) have much better fight scenes for my taste. They are quick and to the point. Maybe a brief speech is given while the bad guy confesses, or something, but then the fight happens for a minute or two and it's over. |
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Coffeeman
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It's really all about style. Some anime go for a "big dramatic battle - matched powers, a stalemate?" school, whereas others prefer a more fluid style to show off the prowess of particular characters.
Also, the ones aimed at younger readers, such as Dragonball Z, and its' ilk, tend to have longer fight scenes than others such as, say, Samurai Champloo. You can't pin it down purely on anime, either. Some live action movies have long, carefully choreographed, and occasionally dull fight scenes (to me, the later Matrix Sequels had this problem) while others prefer a style of one cut, one kill (the Kitano Zatoichi movie comes to my mind when I think of this) fight scenes. |
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Tetsujin
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Everyone's made good points about the duration of fights in anime series. My viewing experience is limited (InuYasha was the only series mentioned which I see regularly), but the points made sense.
Another reason the long fights last as long as they last-- especially if there is dialogue involved-- is to reveal certain clues which may prove to be important later. This could be for character development purposes, to set up a far more major confrontation later in the series, or to take advantage of recently-introduced knowledge. Big O is a series where the fights would either span the second half of the episode, or they would spill over into the next episode. Then again, there would be episodes in Big O where there would be no fights. Series which have long fights marked by long dialogue may be a turn off to a number of people; even then, that depends on the series. However, that looks to me to be better than having a filler episode which isn't satisfying. |
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Kamiyama
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I dont care for dragonballz or Digimon or whatever other animes that relie heavy on battle scenes.
I assume these animes have nothing else to offer but the battlescenes. I know, for example, when One Piece has a battle scene it takes up several episodes just to show maybe 30-40 minutes worth of a battle, and this is just becasue so much is going on and OP shows the many different angles and views of the battle. As for Inuyasha, I dont see too many batttles taking more than maybe 1 and a half episodes. |
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