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littlegreenwolf
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:13 am
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Eric wrote: | I think her work in Xenosaga Episode II is very good. In my opinion, it definitely qualifies as memorable. |
I'll admit, she did better than what I expected, but she didn't really fill up Yasunori Misuda's shoes very well.
.hack was too Euro-techno for my enjoyment, and between that and Noir, I'll take Noir with it's repetitive melody any day. However, I think Kaijura's best work has been done on Petite Cossette.
joon wrote: | this is huge debate who is better yuki kajiura or yoko kanno?
personally i can't choose between them. But i don't really like punk jazz songs which is from yoko kanno.
Yuki Kajiura grew up in germany until middle school so yuki kajiura composes songs that has european classic song rhythms which are very sentimental and emotional.
That is why when i listen to yuki kajiura songs, i never forget the title, tracknumber, album cause it just sticks in my brain automatically. However, yoko kanno songs, some osts i don't really like it because i don't really like american pops but i like some of her songs such as tank, the real folks blue, ask dna.
Also The Vision of Escaflowne songs fit very well with animes but they all had same styles.
so bottom line is, Yuki Kajiura composes songs that are more sentimental and emotional and Yoko Kanno composes songs that are punky and jazz. Therefore i like Yuki Kajiura more than Yoko Kanno.
My favorite Yuki Kajiura song
- ALL OF SONGS COMPOSED BY YUKI KAJIURA, noir ost, madlax ost, hacksign ost, new kimagure orange road ost, xenosaga 2 ost, aquarian age ost, myhime ost, gundam seed inserts (lacus clyne song fields of hope) |
I don't think you have been exposed to enough Yoko Kanno if you think she's just "punky and jazz". Kanno has proven she excels in pretty much all music types, and in doing so is pretty much a musical genius. Yuki on the other hand hasn't had as much of a chance to prove she's at that genius level with different types of music.
And Escaflowne did NOT have all the same style of music. Pretty hard to do that when you're jumping from indian, to gregorian, to who knows what else.
You also left of Kaijura's work on the Boogiepop Phantom tribute cd. One of the songs on it was perhaps my fave non-Cossette song by her. I think it was called Birds, but I could be wrong.
p.s. Saying Kaijura does sentimental and emotional music while at the same time suggesting Kanno does not seems like blasphemy to me.
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Glory Questor
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:26 am
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I like the .hack//SIGN soundtrack, as well.
However, instead of buying the CDs, I utilized the DVD's score audio track. (In the Language options of each SIGN DVD is a third audio track called "Isolated Score".)
This one gives you all the background soundtrack music of all the .hack//SIGN episodes, in full-volume 5.1 and without interruption. Only a few of the pieces are cut (since the track is paced with the show), but most are completely intact.
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Aromatic Grass
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:18 pm
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When I first watched "Obsession", I thought they were singing in Japanese! But, then...subtitles really helped.
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Glory Questor
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:28 am
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Aromatic Grass wrote: | When I first watched "Obsession", I thought they were singing in Japanese!  But, then...subtitles really helped. |
Many of the songs are English, but they are either hard to understand in cases or they tend to switch to Japanese without notice.
Both SIGN and many other animes tend to have multilingual songs that tend to blend together. Sometimes it work, sometimes it doesn't. But, I have yet to see an anime soundtrack with multilingual tracks fail.
For example, I've talked to a few people who actually thought that the opening to Stand Alone Complex was in Japanese... but it's really in Russian. (There is also some Italian in there as well.) In the context of the show, though, you don't notice or don't really mind it -- it fits the mood where it is placed well.
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Aromatic Grass
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:40 am
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Glory Questor wrote: | For example, I've talked to a few people who actually thought that the opening to Stand Alone Complex was in Japanese... but it's really in Russian. (There is also some Italian in there as well.) |
I didn't know that either. That's pretty cool that it's in Russian (and Italian). I thought some parts didn't sound Japanese.
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Proman
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:20 pm
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Aromatic Grass wrote: |
Glory Questor wrote: | For example, I've talked to a few people who actually thought that the opening to Stand Alone Complex was in Japanese... but it's really in Russian. (There is also some Italian in there as well.) |
I didn't know that either. That's pretty cool that it's in Russian (and Italian). I thought some parts didn't sound Japanese. |
Funny thing is, it took me a while to realize that parts of it were in Russian and it's my native language.
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BoygetsfireD
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:12 pm
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woah...I'll have to listen more closely next saturday
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Eric
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:31 am
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littlegreenwolf wrote: | I'll admit, she did better than what I expected, but she didn't really fill up Yasunori Misuda's shoes very well. |
That is a matter of opinion--one I happen to disagree with. Unlike Xenogears, Xenosaga Episode I's music is, in my opinion, unmemorable and easily forgettable. Kajiura's contribution to Episode II more than makes up for Mitsuda's shortcomings in Episode I.
Aromatic Grass wrote: |
Glory Questor wrote: | For example, I've talked to a few people who actually thought that the opening to Stand Alone Complex was in Japanese... but it's really in Russian. (There is also some Italian in there as well.) |
I didn't know that either. That's pretty cool that it's in Russian (and Italian). I thought some parts didn't sound Japanese. |
There's English in there as well.
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Aromatic Grass
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:58 am
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Eric wrote: |
littlegreenwolf wrote: | I'll admit, she did better than what I expected, but she didn't really fill up Yasunori Misuda's shoes very well. |
That is a matter of opinion--one I happen to disagree with. Unlike Xenogears, Xenosaga Episode I's music is, in my opinion, unmemorable and easily forgettable. Kajiura's contribution to Episode II more than makes up for Mitsuda's shortcomings in Episode I.
Aromatic Grass wrote: |
Glory Questor wrote: | For example, I've talked to a few people who actually thought that the opening to Stand Alone Complex was in Japanese... but it's really in Russian. (There is also some Italian in there as well.) |
I didn't know that either. That's pretty cool that it's in Russian (and Italian). I thought some parts didn't sound Japanese. |
There's English in there as well. |
How many languages did they put in one song?
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Tony K.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:58 am
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Aromatic Grass wrote: | How many languages did they put in one song? |
For "Inner Universe," just two, Russian and English. Here are the lyrics:
(Untranslated)
Angely i demony kruzhili nado mnoj
Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti
Ne znaet schast'ya ot togo,
Kto ego zova ponyat' ne smog...
Nalyubuites', nalyubuites'
Aeria Gloris, Aeria Gloris
Nalyubuites', nalyubuites'
Aeria Gloris, Aeria Gloris
I am Calling Calling now, Spirits rise and falling
Soboj ostat'sya dol'she...
Calling Calling, in the depth of longing
Soboj ostat'sya dol'she...
Nalyubuites', nalyubuites'
Aeria Gloris, Aeria Gloris
Stand alone... Where was life when it had a meaning...
Stand alone... Nothing's real anymore and...
...Beskonechnyj beg...
Poka zhiva ya mogu starat'sya na letu ne upast',
Ne razuchit'sya mechtat'...lyubit'...
...Beskonechnyj beg...
Calling Calling now, For the place of knowing
There's more that what can be linked
Calling Calling now, Never will I look away
For what life has left for me
Yearning Yearning, for what's left of loving
Soboj ostat'sya dol'she...
Calling Calling now, Spirits rise and falling
Soboj ostat'sya dol'she...
Calling Calling, in the depth of longing
Soboj ostat'sya dol'she...
Nalyubuites', nalyubuites'
Aeria Gloris, Aeria Gloris
Nalyubuites', nalyubuites'
Aeria Gloris, Aeria Gloris
(Translated)
Angels and demons were circling above me
Cutting thorns and Milky Way
Don't know happiness from
Who knew it but couldn't give it
Watch in awe
Watch in awe
Aeria gloris
Aeria gloris
Watch in awe
Watch in awe
Aeria gloris
Aeria gloris
I am calling, calling now
Spirits rise and falling
To stay with you longer
Calling, calling in the depth of longing
To stay with you longer
Watch in awe
Watch in awe
Aeria gloris
Aeria gloris
Stand alone . . . Where was life when it had a meaning . . .
Stand alone . . . Nothing's real anymore and . . .
Neverendless run
While I'm alive, I can try to fall in flight
Not to forget how to dream... to love
Neverendless run
To stay myself longer...
Calling Calling now, Spirits rise and falling
To stay myself longer...
Calling Calling, in the depth of longing
To stay myself longer...
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Aromatic Grass
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:23 pm
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Cool.
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Glory Questor
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:34 pm
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Tony K. wrote: |
Aromatic Grass wrote: | How many languages did they put in one song? |
For "Inner Universe," just two, Russian and English. |
The "Aeria Gloris" part is Latin.
So, it actually uses three languages in one song.
That's a lot of languages, actually.
To keep on-topic:
.hack//SIGN has Japanese, English, and German (in the alternate version of Key of the Twilight).
Having at least one song with German makes sense since both Harold Howerick (creator of The World) and Emma Wielant (writer of the Epitaph of Twilight) are both German in the storyline of the .hack series. (Also, the introduction to the .hack//INFECTION video game has a piece of the Epitaph narrated and displayed in its original German.)
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Tony K.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:07 pm
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sariyana
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:49 am
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i'm a big fan of kaijura's music. i like kanno, but i think kaijura's better, personally. my favorite .hack songs are yasashii yoake (but i think everyone likes that one), kioku, kimi ga ita monogatari and tasogare no umi. i didn't really like obsession too much. I also like anna ni issho... from seed. and i knew i couldn't get those lyrics from inner universe, but they're in russian and now i know why i didn't get them.
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trackstar1013
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:58 am
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For me I have been listening to the music of .hack//sign a lot more since I have orriganally wrote this I have to say that I still think that the world is the best song but now I have to say I realy like Aura and Key of the Twilight as my favs. These are good songs. I also realize now that for anyone that playes DDR Initial D has lots of good action pacted songs that DDR uses alot ie Runnin in the 90s. Anyway just wanted to check up, Cowboy Bebop still good, .hack//sign better .
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