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GhostPoet



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:19 pm Reply with quote
This isn't really an anime question..but in a way the roots are deeper to anime than to classic asian cinema....

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Are there any Asian live-action films out now that are sci-fi and go for an anime style action (like Cassern) Something with good special effects...but also good acting and at least somewhat good dubbing...
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Maverick



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:21 pm Reply with quote
i dont kno about any sci-fi themed ones but the GTO live action movie was pretty good
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Sword of Whedon



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:24 pm Reply with quote
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Are there any Asian live-action films out now that are sci-fi and go for an anime style action (like Cassern) Something with good special effects.


No. The Japanese simply cannot afford to spend big bucks on the FX, and frankly virtually all asian live-action sci-fi stinks. It's just disposible action made for flash and nothing else.

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..but also good acting and at least somewhat good dubbing...


No such animal. Setting aside the fact that dubs are a-wrong b-never well acted, especially with live action, and c-the number of movies like this that have been dubbed you can count on your fingers and toes. These movies are disposible crap. That's all they're intended to be. Quality is not a watchword. They concentrate quality in animation, because that's where they can afford to be flashy without dropping all their $$[/quote]
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GhostPoet



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:34 pm Reply with quote
that's what I kinda figured...maybe with the release of Cassern we'll see more GOOD live-action...since it's cheaper to do CGI than sets...tho I'd like to see a good all CGI film too. =)
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GhostPoet



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:37 pm Reply with quote
that's what I kinda figured...maybe with the release of Cassern we'll see more GOOD live-action...since it's cheaper to do CGI than sets...tho I'd like to see a good all CGI film too. =)

Maybe that is where the future of asian films are going...CGI...that new Final Fantasy film (advent children) looks incredible.
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I loved Cutie Honey, which was a lot of self-conscious cheese that didn't take itself at all seriously, so it had the same general appeal for me that the Charlie's Angels films did.

I really don't see many of the proposed, or, in a couple of cases, allegedly proposed, Hollywood live-action remakes of anime getting out of development hell. Several of them don't even have any studios interested, and a lot of the ones that actually do have studios attached seem to be very backburner projects bounced around among directors at the bottom of the blockbuster barrel.
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GhostPoet



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:06 pm Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:
I loved Cutie Honey, which was a lot of self-conscious cheese that didn't take itself at all seriously, so it had the same general appeal for me that the Charlie's Angels films did.

I really don't see many of the proposed, or, in a couple of cases, allegedly proposed, Hollywood live-action remakes of anime getting out of development hell. Several of them don't even have any studios interested, and a lot of the ones that actually do have studios attached seem to be very backburner projects bounced around among directors at the bottom of the blockbuster barrel.


I pray hollywood doesn't remake any anime films...I remember what happened to Final Fantasy...it could have been so much better..but instead it was dumbed down and all the asian influence ripped out of it because hollywood suits felt it would be too "asian" to be enjoyable..
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GhostPoet



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:09 pm Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:
I loved Cutie Honey, which was a lot of self-conscious cheese that didn't take itself at all seriously, so it had the same general appeal for me that the Charlie's Angels films did.

I really don't see many of the proposed, or, in a couple of cases, allegedly proposed, Hollywood live-action remakes of anime getting out of development hell. Several of them don't even have any studios interested, and a lot of the ones that actually do have studios attached seem to be very backburner projects bounced around among directors at the bottom of the blockbuster barrel.


I pray hollywood doesn't remake any anime films...I remember what happened to Final Fantasy...it could have been so much better..but instead it was dumbed down and all the asian influence ripped out of it because hollywood suits felt it would be too "asian" to be enjoyable..


Not sure why this posted twice..but anyway...Anyone know any good CGI anime?
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Sword of Whedon



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:02 pm Reply with quote
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maybe with the release of Cassern we'll see more GOOD live-action...since it's cheaper to do CGI than sets...tho I'd like to see a good all CGI film too. =)


Actually it really isn't, and Cashern is hardly "good"

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I pray hollywood doesn't remake any anime films...I remember what happened to Final Fantasy...it could have been so much better..but instead it was dumbed down and all the asian influence ripped out of it because hollywood suits felt it would be too "asian" to be enjoyable..


Square is entirely responsible for the content, Columbia merely a distribution partner There wasn't any Asian influence "ripped out" of the movie, it had its own universe, its own thing. Perhaps it would have been more successful had they stuck to the fantasy formula and not made something so very different
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imaginary_num6er



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:49 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, I recently watched Casshern raw, but it was not a very good live-action movie. Although effects were some-what cool, the plot suddenly jumps unexplainably in some places, and there are also a number of dull moments. Although it seemed to have a philosphical message that it was trying to present, it didn't "build-up" so to say, but basically stated it in the end.

I know this is not a place to criticize Casshern, but I just wanted to state why it was not good.

In terms of live-action movies, some people in Japan are waiting for the EVA live-action, but it would be close to impossible to not only satisfy Japanese & American audiences, but to be consistant in plot as well. On the other hand, the only live-action I know that is barely ok is the live-action of Super Mario although that too is debatable.

Maybe they should have a live-action of G-gundam. How could they go wrong there? Wink
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ParaParaJMo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:59 pm Reply with quote
If you're a fan of sentai, then you'll probably be able to enjoy Sailor Moon. I think the live action Sailor Moon was more for those kind of fans outside of Japan to understand. I personally liked it despite what everyone says. I've seen shows that are worse than Sailor Moon in terms of special effects and monster designs.

Here are some great live action adaptions I really liked
GTO drama
Gokusen drama (I liked it better than GTO's)
Taihou Shichauzo drama
Crying Freeman movie
Ace wo Nerae drama
Storm Riders (based off Chinese manga)
Sky High (no anime, but based off manga)
8 Man (YES, I LIKED THIS ONE!!!)
Golgo 13
City Hunter

And there is an Initial D one coming out next summer and I'll be in Japan via Hong Kong and Taiwan next year in time to see it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:16 pm Reply with quote
ParaParaJMo wrote:
Storm Riders (based off Chinese manga).

One of the best Chinese movies I've seen. The movie was only made in 1998, but it's very anime-ish.

I myself, haven't seen too many Japanese live-action movies that can really compare to something as imaginative as anime, but there seem to be quite a few Chinese (Hong Kong) movies that like to emphasize special effects.

One special effects monster that easily comes to mind is The Legend of Zu. Not too great in terms of story (unless you have an imagination), but if by "anime to live action" you mean something flashy, then this is worth looking at for the CGI alone.

If you want something more down to earth, GTO (live action) is very much like it's anime counterpart (though the live action actually came first).

For violence (and I mean the gruesome and gory kind), I'd recommend Battle Royale. It's definately garnered some attention with its underlying messages (and depictions) of extreme violence, and I feel you'll find it at least somewhat interesting.

And as for "dubbing," I find just about all Asian live action dubbed movies to be rather appauling in terms of watchability, though a few of the Jackie Chan ones are kind of funny. I would recommend you try to stick to the original languages when you have the chance.
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theLostProphet



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:08 pm Reply with quote
The NewType DVD had a preview of a live-action movie called Shinobi. I thought Shinobi was some video game with ninjas in it or something. The movie, however, seemed to have no ninjas, just poor production values and ugly costumes.

GhostPoet wrote:
Anyone know any good CGI anime?

I just watched Kaena: the Prophecy the other day. It wasn't bad. I was disappointed at the slowdown in some of the action sequences though. Kaena is french-canadian too, not japanese. (which is why it's not in ANN's encyc.)
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the_soultaker



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:21 am Reply with quote
I wouldn't say they are actually good, but more like guilty pleasures. Guyver,Fist of the Northstar and Crying Freeman.

8 Man wouldv'e been better off if Carl (Macek) left the Japanese dub intact, instead of dubbing the movie with the same American voiceovers from the 6 part OVA. (8 Man after)
It just didn't gel.

Although Casshern/Casshan had it's 'dull" moments, in true to Japanese fashion the movie contained great action sequences accompanied by an philosophical (as in preachy) message about the brutalities and consenquences of war.It even managed to sneak in a storyarc which would give those zealous "right-to-lifers" ammunition during debates regarding stem cell research. Laughing Laughing Wink (J/K "I Kid"!)

Y'know when Dreamworks release this in the theraters, there's gonna be some heavy editing. and somewhat justifiably so, as the story might alienate a few westerners,who may embrace the film as if it was another Terminator spin/rip-off.
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