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Hunter Gren
 Posts: 46 Location: Marshall MN |
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hear me out this might acctually work.
As we all know, there are some companies that we hate for what they do to our favorite anime shows and movies. Often times their actions prompt a barrage of angry message board activities, online petitions and a host of other activities that accomplish little more than give fans a righteous fury while making little or no impact on the companies. My idea is rather than creating an online petition to let these companies know how we feel, we make actual physical petitions for unaltered subtitled versions to be made available on DVD and circulate them at conventions. If we could organize petitions to be signed at even half the conventions in the country, hundreds of thousands of signatures could be sent to these companies which could actually affect the way they operate their business. These petitions could be placed in registration areas or dealer rooms or where ever planners think they would gain the most signatures. At the end of any given convention, the petition could be mailed directly to the company in question. so in the case of one piece, we set up the petition to 4kids or funimation, either way, and say basicly, "we the undersigned wish to express our desire to have an uncut, unedited, and otherwise compleatly unaltered version of One Piece relased in a subtitled format. We find that the english dubbed version aired on television is to heavily altered from its origonal format, wholely unacceptable and will not support its release if our request is not carried out." and then hand the a fat stack of hand written signatures from whatever convention just happend. basicly, with the way this country has been havin conventions, we could easily send thousands of signatures to 4-kids every month year round. A company like thiers that cares for nothing but money would obviously react to something like that. well, thats my idea anyway. |
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kusanagi-sama
 Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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Good idea, however, they already wind up releasing unedited dubs and accurate subs after awhile.
As with Yu-gi-oh, the uncut, unedited DVD's have a better dub, and more accurate subtitles. FUNimation said they will not mess with anything in Full Metal Alchemist, to stay as true as possible to it. They won't even do a english dubbed op/end versions of the songs. |
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Hunter Gren
Posts: 46 Location: Marshall MN |
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That may be the case with funi, but there are still cases like Rave Master, where Tokyopop has gone on record as saying the only release will be the english dub, TV aired version.
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Ataru
 Posts: 2327 Location: Missouri (Strikeman) |
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Then don't buy or watch them and tell your friends to do the same. Hitting them in pocket hurts more then with papers.
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TMBounty_Hunter
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thats good news 
that a good idea by the way, maybe ill join up one of these days fi something comes up |
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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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Here's an idea, just don't buy the DVD's |
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Vaelemin
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dont waste your time writing a petion,they never read them. if they do read them they couldnt care less,cuase there a millon dollar corpartion.
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Hunter Gren
Posts: 46 Location: Marshall MN |
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Disney responded to a petition, an online one at that. when they where preping Mononoke for US DVD release, after a large scale petition was summited, Disney pushed back the release date to add a subtitled Japanese version to the disc.
Petitions have been proven historicly to work on the biggest companies, because the thought behind them is that at least a part of the people who signed them will spend or with hold their money depending on the companies actions. Physical petitions are one of the main ways to get things changed. They got more Farscape made, and Saved Star Trek Companies follow the money and if they get enough people pushing a certian Idea, they will consider it for the potential to make more. |
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Anti-Mainstreamist
 Posts: 85 Location: Away from the sun and other outside threats. |
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When I look on my Mononoke DVD, not only do I see a quote that wrongly relates Mononoke to Star Wars, but I also see that there is no Disney logo. I thought that disney let Miramax take over Mononoke because of their Family Image that they had to protect. Just like when they started editing their own stuff, they wanted to edit this. They couldn't, so they avoided responsibility and handed it off to someone else. Please correct me if my thoughts were all wrong, it'll be embarassing, but I'll be a better person mentally if I realzie what I've thought for over a year is wrong. On another note, Petitions rarely work. A letter-sending campaign , though, may phase a large scale company if enough people actually care. Not only this, but Tokyopop is the only company that hasn't turned around. I mean, look at 4kids! Uncut DVDs! I really thought I'd never see the day, I'd sooner see a giant squirell burst from the ground and start to eat the greasy heads of a majority of humanity before I'd see Uncut DVDs, but there they are, the first 4Kids DVDs in my DVD collection. And about...Uhhhh...Why don't you, uh, not buy teh Dvds? That question can easily be answered. Please take your favorite anime. Take all the characters and make them say "yo" and "cool". Make any cigarettes lolipops, turn japanese foods(such as Rice Balls) and turn them into "doughnuts" or Cookies". Put the episodes in random order, on both the TV syndication and the video releases. Change all the names to "Bob" and "Joe" and "Sally". Cut entire episodes if a drinking reference can be found. Change character's genders to remove gay/lesbian characters. Change the entire personality of the characters and ruin the storyline, all while making the original illegal in the US. That is what I've dealt with. That is what everyone who's favorite series has been stolen by a bad dubbing company. Like any fan subbed shows that aren't in america yet? Imagine them in the hands of 4kids or early Funi. Whould you not care then? Even if you don't like the series these companies "produced", you never know when they'll grab up your favorite show, and youl'll then realize what a fool you were for not caring. Believe me, we've been through a lot. |
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jsyxx
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I've got a better idea, lets petition to get the Kid N' Play cartoon on DVD. Comeon y'all, it'll be 2 Hype!
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Steventheeunuch
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To be fair, the quote was commenting on the titles appeal and overall success in the Japanese market and enormous positive atittude towards the film, as opposed to claiming similarities between the two. |
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ShellBullet
 Posts: 1051 Location: I hit things, with my fist. |
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First, Disney cannot edit any Ghibli movies in any way shape or form, it's right in the contract. Second, Miramax and Disney are the same thing. Walt Disney corporation has a variety of diferent labels including Disney, Miramax, and Buena Vista - among others. The actual disney label is reserved for family-friendly movies, while movies aimed at older audiences are placed under other labels. In this case Disney wisely decided not to put out a cartoon featuring demons and human decapitation under the Disney name. |
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AHZ
 Posts: 166 Location: Metro Detroit |
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*AHZ falls out of his chair laughing* And after that, we can petition for the old MC Hammer cartoon as well. ...Ain't gon hurt nobody. |
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Anti-Mainstreamist
Posts: 85 Location: Away from the sun and other outside threats. |
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Oh, I see. Thanks for explaining that. It is true, however, that Disney representatives visited Ghibli to ask if they could "bend" the contract in this instance(limbs and heads falling off). |
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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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In which obviously they were unsuccesful (Princess Mononoke for example) |
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