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NEWS: Wreck-It Ralph Director Wants to Put Mario in Possible Sequel

Yeah I got to admit Pixar is pretty bad too. Dreamworks is probably the worst out of them all I just hate how we can't have a movie here without some Hollywood actor playing a 'voice' actor. I swear, they make these dang movies entirely around getting certain Hollywood actors to do the voices and just push them more than the actual movie itself.

There's a chart of Wreck it Ralph's voice actors by their characters and it's amazing how similar they look to the point of unoriginality. It's like that's the only way anyone over the age of 10 could enjoy these films is to took them by bragging how a Saturday Night Live star is voicing a character.

I don't watch anime dubbed so I can't comment but if they do that with Ghibli's stuff as well that's a damn shame.

Princess Mononoke and Grave of the Fireflies alone have more substance than any of these movies they shouldn't have to stooping to their level and resort of name dropping to get an audience for those films. It sounds like from posts here most of the appeal for them was the cameos and what future characters they want to see, not the actual 'story' in the film.

Has to be Mario from Donkey Kong. IIRC, that's the Mario in US arcade.

I mean, we have cameo's everywhere and DIsney even went back in time a little in their history to include a "Sonic Says" cameo (which I found hilarious), I found the movie to be really well written and really enjoyable. When I went to see the movie in theatres for the first timespoiler[ I was actually shocked to see that King Candy was Turbo] and things really don't suprise me a lot. I can't wait to see a sequel and I hope it lives up to its name (unlike a certain movie about talking Cars that made a horrible sequel)

Oh, and as for Cars 2, I must say that I actually enjoyed it better than the first one... The bright colours of Tokyo and Monte Carlo were A LOT more attractive than a desert >_> I have a feeling that it was Pixar's first and last attempt at doing a sequel for a cash-grab (most likely due to committee pressures because of how big of a cash cow the merch of the first one was).

I get where you're coming from. Regular VAs should get their props too, and some now do. Yet celebrities are sometimes necessary to get more people excited about the show.

And if ya think about it, anime does the same thing, except it's the celebrity seiyuu who get invited. Yes, they're seiyuu and that's good, but they're also celebrities nonetheless. So they're being used the same way.

Nowadays, animation is not selling just the characters but also the whole persona surrounding the characters - and that includes the celebrity VAs and seiyuu. That's why when the shows are released, the VAs always do the usual talk show round, and the seiyuu attend events dressed up to look like their characters as close as possible - all to promote the shows. It's no longer just the character itself anymore.

Yes, even Studio Ghibli in Japan does the same thing, except they use Japanese live-action celebrities instead of anime celebrities, albeit Miyazaki is more selective on who he picks.

It's not much different from anime in that regard - whether that's good or bad is up to you. Yes, story is important, but nowadays fans value more the characters with whom they develop relationships. (I think a famous Japanese anime producer said something like that in an ANN interview a few years ago.) Although the combo of good story and relatable characters what would make good to great, they're willing to forgive a generic story as long as they can enjoy their favorite characters again.

While I hear a lot of ya'll complaining about Wreck it Ralph but imo its by far the best movie of the year.

enurtsol wrote:

Has to be Mario from Donkey Kong. IIRC, that's the Mario in US arcade.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but isn't the point that Ralph joins forces with other arcade villains tired of being the bad guys (I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get)? If that is the case, then you'd have to be right, because if I remember my childhood correctly Mario actually started out as Donkey Kong's villain. I got killed by his barrels at the arcade quite a few times growing up.

yotsubafanfan wrote:

When I went to see the movie in theatres for the first timespoiler[ I was actually shocked to see that King Candy was Turbo] and things really don't suprise me a lot.

Heh, I didn't even THINK of those being based on Sonic Sez :p As for spoiler[the Turbo thing, I was VERY surprised too!! I mean, it was a back story used, but was pushed to the back of everyone's minds with the rest of the story going on. Bravo for a great plot-twist!]

I've heard such mixed opinions on Wreck-it-Ralph, so I'm gonna try to see it this week if it's still available. But for kid films this year, I don't think anything will top ParaNorman as far as writing, characters, and moral lesson.

Also, it's not CGI, and that means massive brownie points. I can appreciate and respect the art of live doll manipulation more than having a computer do everything for you once the model is completed. Hell, it's even easier now that basically every action is mo-cap, making it more or less the same as rotoscoping. I'm always far more impressed when one lone guy has to move dolls just ever so slightly, 24 times a second, for an entire film.

enurtsol wrote:

I get where you're coming from. Regular VAs should get their props too, and some now do. Yet celebrities are sometimes necessary to get more people excited about the show.

I guess kids movies have nothing really going for them for adults

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And if ya think about it, anime does the same thing, except it's the celebrity seiyuu who get invited. Yes, they're seiyuu and that's good, but they're also celebrities nonetheless. So they're being used the same way.

I'm not sure the average mainstream non-anime watching man is going to watch a show because Kobayashi Yuu is in it. The only people who know her are anime and video game fans. Japan does the opposite and markets their work towards the fans, not the bored adults who are dragged to the theaters by their kids.

enurtsol wrote:

Nowadays, animation is not selling just the characters but also the whole persona surrounding the characters - and that includes the celebrity VAs and seiyuu. That's why when the shows are released, the VAs always do the usual talk show round, and the seiyuu attend events dressed up to look like their characters as close as possible - all to promote the shows. It's no longer just the character itself anymore.

Not at all. Plenty of anime characters voiced by the same person look and act different. You can't lump anime into this kind of practices.

enurtsol wrote:

Yes, even Studio Ghibli in Japan does the same thing, except they use Japanese live-action celebrities instead of anime celebrities, albeit Miyazaki is more selective on who he picks.

Grave of the Fireflies cast seem to only have a few roles, actually. Nothing big at all.

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It's not much different from anime in that regard - whether that's good or bad is up to you. Yes, story is important, but nowadays fans value more the characters with whom they develop relationships. (I think a famous Japanese anime producer said something like that in an ANN interview a few years ago.) Although the combo of good story and relatable characters what would make good to great, they're willing to forgive a generic story as long as they can enjoy their favorite characters again.

I think the anime director meant anime and other works with substance to them, not children's movies where the characters are just Jack Black in a panda costume But actual characters.

And so what if they use Hollywood actors for the voices. As long as they can do the job, no big deal (not liek I know many in the first place0. Sure, would be nice is Pixar wanted to use Yuri Low or Freeman (or any other top talent anime VAs), but...whatever, maybe 1 day it'll happen. I know Freeman got a small role in Howl's Moving Castle.

do it and while you're at it, put in Samus and Link.

Chris Sabat (Vegeta, among others) is in Wreck-It Ralph.

Hell, I haven't seen the first movie and already we're talking about a sequel.

Not all that unusual really. The world and concept behind WiR has a lot potential including console and online games being the focus.

(Trivia: who's the girl Mario is trying to save from Donkey Kong?)