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Dejiko
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:25 pm
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Quote: | "While not as deep or intellectual as some anime films, Ghost in the Shell remains an example of good animated filmmaking" |
Nice article, but this sentence made me wonder if we have been watching the same movie. I have a though time coming up with titles that match the intellectual level of GITS... at least the ones that weren't done by Oshii
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Tempest
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:55 pm
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Simple: Satoshi Kon (Perfect Blue), Isao Takahata (Grave of the Fireflies, Only Yesterday, ... ), Hideaki Anno (Evangelion), Hiroyuki Yamaga (Wings of Honneamise)
Still, I do agree with you, it looks like its going to be bloody deep and intellectual, so while it may not be the most "deep & intellectual" anime ever, the sentence doesn't give the right impression.
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Dejiko
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:14 am
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Tempest wrote: | Simple: Satoshi Kon (Perfect Blue), Isao Takahata (Grave of the Fireflies, Only Yesterday, ... ), Hideaki Anno (Evangelion), Hiroyuki Yamaga (Wings of Honneamise) |
I know 'em of course, but I'm probabely a biased GITS nut . Even so, the film compares very favourable to these titles in this aspect, so I'm not sure why the author looked down on it like that.
It may have to do with the fact that, as with much of Oshii's films, a lot of the load is carried by the heavy symbolism he employs. Miss out on those references and GITS remains a very good animated SF film, but maybe not as good as other 'intellectual' anime.
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DukeFleed
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:56 pm
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It is incredible to try to explain, because for me it seemed not to be done....then i'll try, hoping someone will read me:) - p a r t o n e -
I hope to have always had a full view of what developed through sci-fi, action, crime, thrilling, horror and western movies around the world, since Caligari, Mabuse, Fantomas and Nosferatu time till our Matrix and Minority days.
We know movies always grab ideas from popular literature genres: overall sci fi movies cannot be made at same level of novels of same arguments, because movies must be more popular than popular novels.
We can observe Science Fiction in literature leads the ideas about Man and World of last 70 years. When it seems to be not true is because a novel contains speculative points of view without appearing to adopt a sci fi model of reference.
Movie makers showed those visions of reality using all the genres they could, during cinema histories: often crimes and horror can reach an higher level than sci fi movies point of view of same decade.
2001 A Space Odissey a part, we r always waiting a new sci fi blockbuster since Star Wars trilogy and Jaw signed our imagination.
There were Alien saga, The Thing and Blade Runner to offer us a new brand as new sides of things, the latest imagines we can reach any time for every movie.
During that period the Cyberpunk movement blasted like a white comet over our cosciences: it occured that when it had a name it was just finished, divided in several understreams. Only few films or short parts of them can show us the real cyberpunk heartbeat. An author among the very few others those writers talked about as predeccessors can help my observations of before: no one script by Philip K. Dick
was report in its truly obsession and right vision.
The last Spielberg is the traitor for money we can expect but we would not confirm any time we trust in something harder and true.
- e n d o f p a r t o n e a b o u t Oshii Mamoru.
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eva05
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:45 am
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For artistic animated film making...
Don't forget Votoms, all the classic Tomino stuff (MS Gundam, Z Gundam, Char's Counterattack, Ideon, etc.), Uchu Senchun Yamato films, Macross Plus, etc.
A lof of the great films from the 70's were deeply written emotional stories...This was what originally attracted me to these things.
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NebStone
Joined: 30 Mar 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:30 am
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I know that there is a trailer out there, but i can't read the japanese that this site links to. Could someone paste a link here, please?
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