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REVIEW: Bleach GN 50-51




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PrecisionCrab



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:27 am Reply with quote
I honestly hated this arc. A lot people compare Bleach to YYH, but I can honestly say this is the arc that completely attempts to rip YYH's Chapter Black, but fails spectacularly since it lacked the characterization, mystery, stakes, and the overall darker and more mature tone that made Chapter Black arguably YYH at its best and so memorable. Sensui leaves one hell of an impression on viewers. Ginjo and Tsukishima barely make you acknowledge their existence.

In contrast, this is Bleach at its worst. This is what happens when you shamelessly try to carbon copy an entire arc.
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Sorraffy



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:25 am Reply with quote
the FB Arc had some promise but by the end it just felt like canon filler (and with the current stuff happening in Bleach ... I feel that way even more so)
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animegamingnerd



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:51 am Reply with quote
PrecisionCrab wrote:
I honestly hated this arc. A lot people compare Bleach to YYH, but I can honestly say this is the arc that completely attempts to rip YYH's Chapter Black, but fails spectacularly since it lacked the characterization, mystery, stakes, and the overall darker and more mature tone that made Chapter Black arguably YYH at its best and so memorable. Sensui leaves one hell of an impression on viewers. Ginjo and Tsukishima barely make you acknowledge their existence.

In contrast, this is Bleach at its worst. This is what happens when you shamelessly try to carbon copy an entire arc.
agreed last year when i was reading each for this arc every week i felt the series was now just dragging and how terrible pasting this arc was at least in the manga
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Gayjopa



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:46 am Reply with quote
Another garbage review of an obvious hater. Lazy art is where I started just laughing. [removed]. If you don't like Bleach how about you don't read it instead of giving it a [removed] review.

PrecisionCrab wrote:
I honestly hated this arc. A lot people compare Bleach to YYH, but I can honestly say this is the arc that completely attempts to rip YYH's Chapter Black, but fails spectacularly since it lacked the characterization, mystery, stakes, and the overall darker and more mature tone that made Chapter Black arguably YYH at its best and so memorable. Sensui leaves one hell of an impression on viewers. Ginjo and Tsukishima barely make you acknowledge their existence.

In contrast, this is Bleach at its worst. This is what happens when you shamelessly try to carbon copy an entire arc.

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Gasero



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:46 am Reply with quote
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This segment of the story introduces new characters, explains a new system of supernatural powers, and builds up the mystery surrounding the main villain.


That would be great except spoiler[everything becomes the same right after.]
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PrecisionCrab



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:21 pm Reply with quote
Gasero wrote:
That would be great except spoiler[everything becomes the same right after.]


Honestly? Not really. The problem with Bleach is, even more so in the FB arc, there's never really any stakes. No one EVER gets killed. Villains and heroes both stand around, chatting, explaining their powers to each other, then either the hero or the villain tops the other...and that's it. Just tops the other. BARELY do any of them die. I could count on both my hands the number of "high stakes deaths" we've had since the Soul Society arc. It's all be chat>fight>story. Even Aizen, who pretty much became a God, all he did was beat the crap out of everyone. He never really killed any of them.

Then the Vandereich show up, and completely turn that...that philosophy on its head. It's almost as if Kubo himself acknowledged how idiotic the banter was in the series so far. Demonstrated in that, of course, it was only Soul Society who went into the fights with that attitude. And got their asses handed spectacularly.

I wouldn't remotely call that "the same as before." I like to think of that as "progress." Acknowledging your series' weakness then, hell, parodying it. The Soul Reapers and Arrancars both stand around and like to explain their powers during a fight. The Quincies don't. And the results are magnificent.
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malvarez1



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:05 pm Reply with quote
I enjoyed these two volumes. As much as I loved the Arrancar arc, this was a nice change of pace, and I think that Kubo's art is very stylish and slick.
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sainta



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:13 pm Reply with quote
Most of the final fights were unneeded as there were already members of Xcution who didn't want to follow Ginjo and the Shinigami came out of nowhere (possibly just as fanservice) spoiler[and most leave even before the final battle ends]. My guess is that the arc wasn't too popular and Kubo had to imitate the Arrancar arc by making two teams fight each other. Ichigo vs Ginjo is the biggest example of how forced was this as spoiler[they fight for only two chapters despite the length from previous fights.]
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Scormio





PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:17 pm Reply with quote
Without spoiling anything, nothing that happens in these 2 volumes actually matters or impacts the story.

It could have just been 1 page that said spoiler[Ichigo gets his powers back] and then continue on with the current arc
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Banken



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:50 am Reply with quote
The current arc hasn't been super entertaining, either... I honestly think he just pulled it out of his ass.

Not to mention the bad guys are, as always in Shonen series, stronger than all the previous badguys for no other reason except that the story says they are.
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Lycosyncer



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:16 am Reply with quote
More signs of Bleach hitting on the decline? I would say so and the fact that spoiler[Rukia is defeated by Riruka of all people] is the embarrassing low point for the series.

So what are the Fullbringers's importance to the story again? I never really felt they were necessary and really, using this story as an excuse to give Ichigo his powers back can be better used elsewhere.
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Bingal



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:55 pm Reply with quote
Gayjopa wrote:
Lazy art is where I started just laughing.


If there's one thing that's incredibly consistent about Bleach, it would be the criminal laziness Kubo displays in his artwork time after time. It's rather impressive how he can get away with it on a weekly basis without his editor demanding more for drawn content.

Banken wrote:
The current arc hasn't been super entertaining, either... I honestly think he just pulled it out of his ass.

Not to mention the bad guys are, as always in Shonen series, stronger than all the previous badguys for no other reason except that the story says they are.


Ditto. It lacks purpose and feels more like an invasion from another story than something that was carefully and cleverly plotted ahead of time.
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sainta



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:02 pm Reply with quote
Banken wrote:
The current arc hasn't been super entertaining, either... I honestly think he just pulled it out of his ass.

Not to mention the bad guys are, as always in Shonen series, stronger than all the previous badguys for no other reason except that the story says they are.

To be fair this arc was completely unlike Dragon Ball or other shonen. The two strongest villains, Ginjo and Tsukishima, had reasons to be strong but they were not near from Ulquiorra don't even think about Aizen. Ichigo himself was weaker than in Arrancar, especially his final fight against Aizen, and his power up consisted of him becoming friendly with his power and become more balanced unlike previous arcs where his new powers were limited or hard to control (not to mention his powers were rebooted).
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