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NEWS: Publishers Random House, Penguin to Merge




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mgosdin



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:27 am Reply with quote
So we have two of the remaining big publishers in North America combining? Both are already foreign owned.

Anyone think this is the beginning of the end for old-style publishing in the US?

Mark Gosdin
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Genet



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:26 am Reply with quote
You mean print publishing? I don't think it'll be the standard in the next 5-10 years, but I doubt it'll disappear completely.

I do wish they'd chosen the name Random Penguin, though. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:47 am Reply with quote
Oh wow, didn't see this one coming. And so the ever-changing world of publishing continues...
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:46 pm Reply with quote
I quite like "Penguin House" myself.
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Tratious



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:45 pm Reply with quote
someone in another thread said Random Penguin, which I thought was awesome.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:47 pm Reply with quote
Aynslesa wrote:
Oh wow, didn't see this one coming. And so the ever-changing world of publishing continues...

Just like the music companies.
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11G4GUNOT



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:06 pm Reply with quote
Tratious wrote:
someone in another thread said Random Penguin, which I thought was awesome.

Random Kodansha Penguin? LOL
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marie-antoinette



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:29 pm Reply with quote
mgosdin wrote:
Anyone think this is the beginning of the end for old-style publishing in the US?


Not even remotely. I don't even think this is the "beginning" of anything, it's just another step in the evolution of publishing that has been going one for a long time now, ever since the first good ebook readers took off (and maybe even before that).

As I said in the other thread about this, I don't even see it really having much impact on the books that are published, since I'm sure Random House and Pearson-Penguin will continue on as separate imprints of the same company, since both of them already have about a million imprints each.
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Genet



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:17 pm Reply with quote
Shiroi Hane wrote:
I quite like "Penguin House" myself.


That would've been awesome, too.

Laughing
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Gyt Kaliba



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:34 am Reply with quote
Hmm...as someone that's working on completing a novel in the hopes of getting published, I'm not sure how to feel about this. Seems like it makes one less publisher option to look into. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:19 am Reply with quote
Gyt Kaliba wrote:
Hmm...as someone that's working on completing a novel in the hopes of getting published, I'm not sure how to feel about this. Seems like it makes one less publisher option to look into. Confused


But you wouldn't be looking into publishers, really, in that case. You'd be looking into specific imprints. And as far as we know, this merger isn't closing any imprints.
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marie-antoinette



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:32 pm Reply with quote
ZepysGirl wrote:
But you wouldn't be looking into publishers, really, in that case. You'd be looking into specific imprints.


Exactly. And each imprint has its own identity and "type" or genre of book it publishes.

Just Random House USA alone has all these imprints that they are affiliated with:

Amphoto Books
Back Stage Books
Billboard Books
Broadway
Broadway Business
Clarkson Potter
Crown
Crown Business
Crown Forum
Doubleday Religion
Harmony Books
Hogarth Press
Potter Craft
Potter Style
Ten Speed Press
Three Rivers Press
Tricycle Press
Shaye Areheart Books
WaterBrook Multnomah
Watson-Guptill
Alfred A. Knopf
Anchor Books
Doubleday
Everyman's Library
Nan A. Talese
Pantheon Books
Schocken Books
Vintage
Ballantine Books
Bantam
Delacorte
Del Rey
Del Rey / Lucas Books
Dell
The Dial Press
Kodansha Comics USA
The Modern Library
One World
Presido Press
Random House Trade Group
Random House Trade Paperbacks
Spectra
Spiegel & Grau
Villard Books
Children's Classics
Crescent Books
Derrydale
Gramercy Books
Testament Books
Wings Books
Random House Children's Books (Kids@Random)
Beginner Books
David Fickling Books
Nickelodeon Books
Delacorte Press
Golden Books
Prima Games
Step Into Reading
Schwartz & Wade
Stepping Stone Books
Sylvan Learning
Wendy Lamb Books
Fodor's Travel
Listening Library
Living Language
Princeton Review
Random House Audio
Random House Large Print
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Alan45
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:23 pm Reply with quote
Many of which started as independent publishers. Consolidation has been going on for a long time.
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Gyt Kaliba



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:03 pm Reply with quote
Oh wow, so that really doesn't narrow down my field of options at ALL. Thanks for the info guys. Very Happy

Course it all comes down to what imprints my agent would be able to show materials to in the first place I guess.
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Ashen Phoenix



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:39 pm Reply with quote
marie-antoinette wrote:
mgosdin wrote:
Anyone think this is the beginning of the end for old-style publishing in the US?


Not even remotely. I don't even think this is the "beginning" of anything, it's just another step in the evolution of publishing that has been going one for a long time now, ever since the first good ebook readers took off (and maybe even before that).

As I said in the other thread about this, I don't even see it really having much impact on the books that are published, since I'm sure Random House and Pearson-Penguin will continue on as separate imprints of the same company, since both of them already have about a million imprints each.

Thank you for this breath of intelligent fresh air.
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