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penguintruth
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I don't see how the Ginyu Force is a drawback. I thought those episodes were a lot of fun, and an interesting transition from the chasing around Namek for the Dragon Balls into the confrontation with Freeza himself. (My only issue is Chris Sabat's Recoome sounding like he should be wearing a hockey helmet.)
I wonder why Theron didn't go into why the music was a negative aspect. I'll admit that I don't quite enjoy Kenji Yamamoto's pieces as much as Shunsuke Kikuchi's, but there are quite a few that are enjoyable, like the Ginyu Force song, "The Braveheart's Triumphant Return", which gets played in this volume when Kuririn meets up with Dende, and the Freeza song that plays after he transforms into his second form and goes after Kuririn. Chris Ayres really is great as Freeza and the script is a lot more accurate in Kai then in DBZ, but I wouldn't quite say the performances in both languages are quite equal. |
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Hypeathon
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Though isn't that because you never get tired of almost anything to do with the Dragon Ball story compared to someone that may not be as big of a fan? Not that I'm saying Theoron isn't a fan of the show at all, if he is. Though I can't help but wonder if he's becoming a bit fatuged with reviewing the franchise at this point (he did say on his guest staff appearance on ANNcast that at least in the case of DBZ, the fast-foward button comes in handy). |
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ryusaki
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I'm also a bit wondering why ANN is a few months behind on Kai's releases.
Otherwise? Yeah, funny thing is? And I wouldn't even say it's going out on a limb, but Chris Ayres deserves an award for his performance, and it only gets better. |
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penguintruth
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Hey, I reviewed the first Dragon Box, if you recall. So that was one less DB thing Theron had to do. Hm, but that's also less work for him... (Also, that was over a year ago.) |
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here-and-faraway
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The first three Kai releases I got on DVD and I pre-ordered the 4th on Blu Ray. I was wondering if there really was a huge difference between the DVD and Blu Ray quality. Unless there's a dramatic change between the 3rd and 4th Kai release, it seems like both versions are fine? I'm new to the whole Blu Ray scene and while it's usually only a few bucks more if you pre-order, I haven't noticed a huge difference between the two formats. I guess I was expecting something more grand in scale? |
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sainta
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The fight against Freeza. I don't know if I loved it or hated it in Dragon Ball Z, because it actually took about 30 episodes to defeat that guy (or woman, maybe that thing is genderless...). I guess that was the ultimate example of dragging in anime, but I really liked the fight. I hope that Kai reduced such number of episodes to a smaller number.
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jr240483
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Kinda doubt. Sure they were silly , and gets annoying at times , but at least they were fun to watch with their sillines. Also Capt Ginyu's signature move is definitely over the top. Besides The Ginyu Force are a hell of a lot better than say MR HERCULE SATAN |
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sainta
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It was released around December 2010, it took almost three months. |
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Try about ten weeks. And it was that far behind because I had it sitting around for more than a month as higher-priority stuff came up. Also, to address another's comments: I never said these episodes weren't fun. It's just not one of the series' best runs.
I'll take Hercule over the Ginyu Force any day. |
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Kit-Tsukasa
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Ginyu Force theme is still epic. Enough said
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immortalrite
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DBZ Kai has been pretty great so far, even surprisingly so. Since I have not watched the original series since it was airing on Toonami back in 2003, comparing it to Kai on specific points has not been easy. However, I remember losing interest somewhere around the Frieza arc and disparaged it ever since on the grounds that, "why would I want to watch some guys powering up and grimacing at each other for whole episodes at a time?" Kai, on the other hand, genuinely feels like I am watching the series again for the first time, and, as an aside, is hence the only Shonen Jump-type series which has managed to spark in me any continued interest.
I personally had little problem with the Ginyu Force, especially seeing as they all get thoroughly put in their place by Goku. I also fail to see what is quite so D-grade-worthy about the music; again, perhaps because I have no side-by-side comparison, but nothing stands out as particularly bad or particularly great. The only real complaint I might issue in this department is the dubbed opening and ending themes, which are pretty shamelessly cheesy. Looking forward to tearing through another 13 episodes tomorrow with the arrival of the 4th set. 
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R315r4z0r
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I've been following Kai on Nicktoons.
And granted it's a TV edit, I still prefer the old DBZ to Kai. When I watch Kai, I'm constantly saying "Aww, they cut that part out?" So it feels like I'm always missing something. The story might merge it all together seamlessly, but I still know those scenes are missing. That's not to say Kai is bad, no way. It's still very much enjoyable... and some of the changes are for the better. But one thing I don't like is the music. It doesn't complement the show very well and is never deployed at the right time. You know if background music is good if the audience doesn't notice it playing. That means it blends in so well with the action that you don't even notice it's there. Bad background music, on the other hand, is music that takes away from the action by drawing your attention to it's poor execution. That's what the music in Kai does. It tries so hard to work that it degrades the rest of the show... and that's really disappointing. |
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Son-kun
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I don't see a problem with Kai's music. I thought it was better than what the US broadcast music for Z offered, but it doesn't really have the nostalgia of Kikuchi's score. By today's standards, Kikuchi's music probably doesn't hold well, but the Dragon Ball franchise is truly a product of it's time taking nods from Shaw Brothers films in musical direction. Honestly, spoiler[with Kai ending at episode 98. The end of the Cell arc], I'm glad I took a step down from taking too much of a deep interest in the series and waiting for the Dragon Boxes to finish its releases. Kai seems like something I'll get down along the line if I ever would want to watch the episodes with friends. And that's probably never going to happen.
http://kanzentai.com/ Last edited by Son-kun on Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:29 am; edited 1 time in total |
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penguintruth
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Bite your tongue, Kikuchi's music holds up excellently. Both Kikuchi and Yamamoto came up with better stuff than the soulless techno rock/new wave pieces Bruce Faulconer cooked up.
But apparently Yamamoto has sticky fingers |
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jr240483
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WHOA. This this a first. cause during the Toonami era most people would definitely prefer the Ginyu Force over Mr Satan since that guy is a massive wuss. Though I could understand why you would like him cause his antics at times are too funny for words but that was during the late eps on the Buu saga & on GT and reforming Old Buu was a start for redemption. Dont get me wrong. Both Hercule & Ginyu are way over the top with their silliness , but when it comes to the most annoying , hercule was more annoying than Ginyu cause at least they could fight. |
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