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Gentry
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 Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:18 pm
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jsc315
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:25 pm
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They really have a good collection of shows this season, well stuff I'm very interested in for once.
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yuna49
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:03 pm
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Why do you suppose CR didn't pick up Puella Magi Madoka Magica? It certainly has attracted a lot of attention among fansub viewers. Fears about another Shinbo show with lolis after the controversy surrounding Dance of the Vampire Bund perhaps? Madoka is actually quite conservative; even in the transformation scenes the girls remain clothed.
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Shiroi Hane
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:18 pm
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| yuna49 wrote: | | Why do you suppose CR didn't pick up Puella Magi Madoka Magica? It certainly has attracted a lot of attention among fansub viewers. Fears about another Shinbo show with lolis after the controversy surrounding Dance of the Vampire Bund perhaps? Madoka is actually quite conservative; even in the transformation scenes the girls remain clothed. |
They weren't offered it? They didn't want it? The cost was too high? We'll probably never know.
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agila61
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:18 am
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| Shiroi Hane wrote: |
| yuna49 wrote: | | Why do you suppose CR didn't pick up Puella Magi Madoka Magica? ... |
They weren't offered it? They didn't want it? The cost was too high? We'll probably never know. |
They weren't offered it or they were offered it at an up-front fee or royalty rate they didn't think it could earn back would seem the top two most likely reasons. I'm not sure a lot of SHAFT series get simulcasts, but whether that is because of a reluctance to simulcast or setting the price too high is, of course, not something that Crunchyroll will let slip if they want to stay on the good side of the Japanese production committees.
As far as not wanting it, there may be the unusual case, but they seem to have the strategy of streaming what they can get and letting the viewers decide what they want to watch.
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Saturn
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:38 am
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I really wish they HAD gotten Madoka Magica, it would make a subscription worth it (as it is, at the end of every month I start to ponder whether I should cut off my membership).
In all honesty, I think Hulu actually has a better selection of anime. It's too bad an agreement couldn't be made between Crunchyroll and Funimation or something. Hulu's commercials are irritating :V
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yuna49
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:44 am
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| Shiroi Hane wrote: | | I'm not sure a lot of SHAFT series get simulcasts |
Funi streamed Dance of the Vampire Bund while it was showing in Japan, but since they were planning to release DVDs they might have been more willing to pay for a package that included the streaming rights. Looking at the list of recent SHAFT releases here, it appears that Dance is the only show that has been streamed legally in the US.
| Saturn wrote: | | I really wish they HAD gotten Madoka Magica, it would make a subscription worth it (as it is, at the end of every month I start to ponder whether I should cut off my membership |
I re-started my membership to watch Level E. Like you, I'll be reconsidering that decision in the next season. In general, I don't find most of CR's offerings that appealing. I'm more likely to watch Noitamina streams on Funi than most of the shows CR licenses.
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Sentire
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:57 am
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| yuna49 wrote: |
| Saturn wrote: | | I really wish they HAD gotten Madoka Magica, it would make a subscription worth it (as it is, at the end of every month I start to ponder whether I should cut off my membership |
I re-started my membership to watch Level E. Like you, I'll be reconsidering that decision in the next season. In general, I don't find most of CR's offerings that appealing. I'm more likely to watch Noitamina streams on Funi than most of the shows CR licenses. |
I find that even if there are slim-pickings of anime series at times, I enjoy watching the dramas. That pretty much keeps my membership going. I'm always glad to hear when they do add new series though, even if they are not my cup of tea.
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samuelp
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:17 am
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| yuna49 wrote: |
| Shiroi Hane wrote: | | I'm not sure a lot of SHAFT series get simulcasts |
Funi streamed Dance of the Vampire Bund while it was showing in Japan, but since they were planning to release DVDs they might have been more willing to pay for a package that included the streaming rights. Looking at the list of recent SHAFT releases here, it appears that Dance is the only show that has been streamed legally in the US.
| Saturn wrote: | | I really wish they HAD gotten Madoka Magica, it would make a subscription worth it (as it is, at the end of every month I start to ponder whether I should cut off my membership |
I re-started my membership to watch Level E. Like you, I'll be reconsidering that decision in the next season. In general, I don't find most of CR's offerings that appealing. I'm more likely to watch Noitamina streams on Funi than most of the shows CR licenses. |
Just FYI, Natsu no Arashi (on CR) was also a shaft production, although no one watched it and everyone clearly immediately forgot it  .
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agila61
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:40 am
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| yuna49 wrote: |
| Shiroi Hane wrote: | | I'm not sure a lot of SHAFT series get simulcasts |
Funi streamed Dance of the Vampire Bund while it was showing in Japan, but since they were planning to release DVDs they might have been more willing to pay for a package that included the streaming rights. Looking at the list of recent SHAFT releases here, it appears that Dance is the only show that has been streamed legally in the US. |
As far as I understand it, Funimation always seeks full rights, though of course in some license rescues, exclusive streaming rights are not available because of the way the rights were originally distributed, so they can only get non-exclusive streaming rights.
When a DVD deal has been struck, its no longer an issue of the Japanese production committee offering a distinct streaming license ~ the international licensee has the rights and they decide how the streaming rights will work.
IOW, the telling point there is that no SHAFT production has had an independent streaming license, which suggests there is a policy in place.
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| Saturn wrote: | | I really wish they HAD gotten Madoka Magica, it would make a subscription worth it (as it is, at the end of every month I start to ponder whether I should cut off my membership |
I re-started my membership to watch Level E. Like you, I'll be reconsidering that decision in the next season. In general, I don't find most of CR's offerings that appealing. I'm more likely to watch Noitamina streams on Funi than most of the shows CR licenses. |
I'm following Level E, GOSICK and Letter Bee, and have one or two others I'm watching. I was certainly willing to pay $7/month when following three a month, which made the decision to take the full year at $4.20/month pretty easy.
But in Spring2010 before Giant Killing started streaming, when I was only following Durarara!, it was a lot more tenuous.
| samuelp wrote: | Just FYI, Natsu no Arashi (on CR) was also a shaft production, although no one watched it and everyone clearly immediately forgot it . |
Aha, and on TV Tokyo. Perhaps if Puella Magi Madoka Magica had been a TV Tokyo series, it could have been available to CR.
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Guardsman Bass
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:51 am
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That Naruto: Shippuden was a real gut-puncher, and I loved it. Naruto does not end up looking good (although I think the whole scene looked even more pathetic in the manga, for some reason). My favorite arc of the story . . . continues.
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Saturn
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:43 am
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| Sentire wrote: |
| yuna49 wrote: |
| Saturn wrote: | | I really wish they HAD gotten Madoka Magica, it would make a subscription worth it (as it is, at the end of every month I start to ponder whether I should cut off my membership |
I re-started my membership to watch Level E. Like you, I'll be reconsidering that decision in the next season. In general, I don't find most of CR's offerings that appealing. I'm more likely to watch Noitamina streams on Funi than most of the shows CR licenses. |
I find that even if there are slim-pickings of anime series at times, I enjoy watching the dramas. That pretty much keeps my membership going. I'm always glad to hear when they do add new series though, even if they are not my cup of tea. |
I've actually never looked into any of their dramas (I only have an anime membership). I will admit that I've started to watch some shows just because I felt like I should be getting more out of my CR membership, only to discover I really liked them (prime example: Beezlebub, which I had no interest in initially, I only started watching because I ran out of Tegami Bachi eps and it popped up on the "recommended" list at the end of a video. Turns out the series is hilarious!)
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bayoab
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:51 am
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| agila61 wrote: |
| samuelp wrote: | Just FYI, Natsu no Arashi (on CR) was also a shaft production, although no one watched it and everyone clearly immediately forgot it . |
Aha, and on TV Tokyo. Perhaps if Puella Magi Madoka Magica had been a TV Tokyo series, it could have been available to CR. |
This is probably a broadcaster/broadcast block issue. A number of the other Shaft shows belong to two TBS programming blocks, neither of which has had any shows simulcast without getting DVD rights. (Infinite Stratos and Kaichou wa Maid-sama appear to be the only exceptions at first glance but they may not be as neo-ADV picked up DVD rights to other shows from the same block around the same time.) Madoka is actually a different block but that block also has a rather weird simulcast history.
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