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NEWS: The Pokémon Company Releases Statement Regarding Possible IP Infringement Involving New Game


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HyperGatack



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:58 am Reply with quote
Not surprised. Between the paywalled pokémod and at least two carbon copy monsters this was inevitable.
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zeopower6



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:59 am Reply with quote
This doesn't say ANYTHING at all about how they feel about Palworld, lol.

Palworld itself has been in display in Japan for the last 2-3 years and was even at TGS the last two years.

They mean to talk about stuff like the Pokemon mods which are NOT allowed because it pretty much ripped assets from Nintendo / TPC games and also was behind a paywall. People who think it's related to the game specifically from what is said have no sense of reading comprehension. "We intend to investigate" refers to things like the mods and such but the game itself should be in the clear considering many of those designs have been known about for years now... the game itself also plays like ARK over anything else.

I feel like ANN is highlighting the wrong point and misleading heavily from what is actually stated in the statement...

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We intend to investigate and take appropriate measures to address any acts that infringe on intellectual property rights related to the Pokémon.

^Specifically is pretty much "Do not make Pokemon mods for that game that came out" and the statement is like "Stop flooding us with messages about it".
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Yune Amagiri



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:37 am Reply with quote
I feel that the underlying problem is more focalized on the supposedly alleged misuse of AI than anything else, if it was question of IP Infringement as a whole then let alone Palworld, many prior games like Tem Tem would have long since been taken from Steam and such, or their policy has suddenly changed and potential action towards Palworld will cause chain reactions.
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zeopower6



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:55 am Reply with quote
I think they used AI for stuff like programming and for the actual creature AI in game, but in terms of designs, it's all people just making guesses and presenting it as fact. Whatever the case is, the success is insane for an indie game...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:32 am Reply with quote
The game was announced years ago, this whole thing only started in the last few days after the beta vers got out and so many people had already bought and tried it out.

Japan is very serious in its copyright infringement laws and if it really did copy paste it, trust me this game would of been shut down by now by nintendo if they had a real case. This feels like it is blowing out of proportions cause of the games success.

I don't like the article how it was written, it is implying that their is infringement and not all facts are actually clear and basing on some peoples poor excuses.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:34 am Reply with quote
I’m not surprised at all.
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<('_')^



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:17 am Reply with quote
Rooting against the Pokémon company. They have been handling the games poorly for years now. It's about time other IPs come after its crown.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:30 am Reply with quote
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We will continue to cherish and nurture each and every Pokémon and its world


What about Porygon?
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HyperGatack



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:57 am Reply with quote
<('_')^ wrote:
Rooting against the Pokémon company. They have been handling the games poorly for years now. It's about time other IPs come after its crown.


It’s not so much they’re afraid of competition so much as copyright violations.

There’s at least 3 pals that are at best minor tweaks to existing Pokémon designs.
, and at least 2 that are pretty near 1:1 fan designs.

Somer-_- wrote:
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We will continue to cherish and nurture each and every Pokémon and its world


What about Porygon?


#porygondidnothingwrong
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light turner



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:22 am Reply with quote
Thespacemaster wrote:
The game was announced years ago, this whole thing only started in the last few days after the beta vers got out and so many people had already bought and tried it out.

Japan is very serious in its copyright infringement laws and if it really did copy paste it, trust me this game would of been shut down by now by nintendo if they had a real case. This feels like it is blowing out of proportions cause of the games success.

I don't like the article how it was written, it is implying that their is infringement and not all facts are actually clear and basing on some peoples poor excuses.


I've been following the game for years and yeah, all this sudden "controversy" seems very manufactured and out of nowhere. Like, granted, people probably just wrote it off as another random indie game about monster collecting like Temtem or whatever so when it blew up and sold like 8 million copies in the first few days and is still going strong I guess people will notice it more, but a lot of these designs have been public for ages. And considering how quickly they descended on the guy selling a Pokemon mod for it, I imagine if they had any actual issue with Palworld itself they would have already sent something long ago or even in the past few days. This seems more like a "stop sending us messages about Palworld Jesus Christ you guys we get it" statement for people to stop tagging them on social media or sending them emails and flooding their notifications. I have to admit, I was not expecting it to be the Hogwarts Legacy of 2024 in terms of the reaction it's getting.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:28 am Reply with quote
Yune Amagiri wrote:
I feel that the underlying problem is more focalized on the supposedly alleged misuse of AI than anything else, if it was question of IP Infringement as a whole then let alone Palworld, many prior games like Tem Tem would have long since been taken from Steam and such, or their policy has suddenly changed and potential action towards Palworld will cause chain reactions.


zeopower6 wrote:
I think they used AI for stuff like programming and for the actual creature AI in game, but in terms of designs, it's all people just making guesses and presenting it as fact. Whatever the case is, the success is insane for an indie game...


Addressing both of these comments together. There is absolutely ZERO evidence that the company used AI to make this game at all. In fact, most of what we see is "easily" doable by any competent team in the 3 years they spent working on this game. They've even detailed development in blog posts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:31 am Reply with quote
light turner wrote:
Thespacemaster wrote:
The game was announced years ago, this whole thing only started in the last few days after the beta vers got out and so many people had already bought and tried it out.

Japan is very serious in its copyright infringement laws and if it really did copy paste it, trust me this game would of been shut down by now by nintendo if they had a real case. This feels like it is blowing out of proportions cause of the games success.

I don't like the article how it was written, it is implying that their is infringement and not all facts are actually clear and basing on some peoples poor excuses.


I've been following the game for years and yeah, all this sudden "controversy" seems very manufactured and out of nowhere. Like, granted, people probably just wrote it off as another random indie game about monster collecting like Temtem or whatever so when it blew up and sold like 8 million copies in the first few days and is still going strong I guess people will notice it more, but a lot of these designs have been public for ages. And considering how quickly they descended on the guy selling a Pokemon mod for it, I imagine if they had any actual issue with Palworld itself they would have already sent something long ago or even in the past few days.


The controversy isn't manufactured. It went viral.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:36 am Reply with quote
zeopower6 wrote:
^Specifically is pretty much "Do not make Pokemon mods for that game that came out" and the statement is like "Stop flooding us with messages about it".


I wonder if the main issue is the dude tried to profit off the mod which was a wholly stupid thing to do Pokemon mods have existed for Minecraft since 2012 I remember reading Nintendo took down Pixelmon back in 2017 but just a quick Google search shows me the website is still up and they're still updating it and it's still popular. Not sure what happens there if Nintendo backtracked or the modders just said "screw it" and are still doing it and avoiding Nintendo lawyers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:01 am Reply with quote
<('_')^ wrote:
Rooting against the Pokémon company. They have been handling the games poorly for years now. It's about time other IPs come after its crown.


Which this game isn’t going to do.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:31 am Reply with quote
HyperGatack wrote:
Not surprised. Between the paywalled pokémod and at least two carbon copy monsters this was inevitable.


Nah, this statement is just "Yes, we know Pal World exists, stop emailing us about it."
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