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secondkas
Joined: 18 Sep 2014
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:00 pm
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I have mixed feelings towards Aggretsuko. On one hand it is painfully funny and relatable, on the other its seasons always end with non-resolutions. Retsuko et al. rage all they want but in the end the system and/or characters they're angry about do not change, even apologize in the least. It's like telling her, "Thank you, your screaming is noted, now go back to being a cog in the machine."
Maybe it's more frustrating for me because I'm a woman. I was rooting for Retsuko and Haida at first but I did not like how their relationship developed. It's like Haida had to deal with his insecurities and Retsuko was tasked to adjust and prop him up. And Retsuko is always portrayed to be capable of doing something great, but she's always hammered down, and making her say that all she wanted was a simple life. Even the message to Shikabane was like her rage towards her society is warranted, but she was the one who had to step up and get used to living in it.Huh.
I don't know, I guess this is too much to expect from a Sanrio cartoon. Maybe it's already a big deal in Japanese culture for one to say how they really feel, and that's revolutionary in itself. Credit to this series, however, for teaching me Japanese elections. That deposit for candidacy thing is wild; it's ironic that election means freedom of choice for citizens, but the choices are limited to people who can cough up millions of cash.
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Multi-Facets
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:29 pm
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Wait, what? Retsuko and Haida got married? I need to re-watch the last episode.
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nyaa
Joined: 27 Oct 2022
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:38 pm
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I'm gonna miss this show bigtime, it just struck the right note for me. Even though it's basically a caricature artwise the characters are just so relatable and relevant. Don't we all just want to rage on about the machine once in a while?
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luisedgarf
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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Location: Guadalajara, Mexico
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:18 pm
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secondkas wrote: | I have mixed feelings towards Aggretsuko. On one hand it is painfully funny and relatable, on the other its seasons always end with non-resolutions. Retsuko et al. rage all they want but in the end the system and/or characters they're angry about do not change, even apologize in the least. It's like telling her, "Thank you, your screaming is noted, now go back to being a cog in the machine."
Maybe it's more frustrating for me because I'm a woman. I was rooting for Retsuko and Haida at first but I did not like how their relationship developed. It's like Haida had to deal with his insecurities and Retsuko was tasked to adjust and prop him up. And Retsuko is always portrayed to be capable of doing something great, but she's always hammered down, and making her say that all she wanted was a simple life. Even the message to Shikabane was like her rage towards her society is warranted, but she was the one who had to step up and get used to living in it.Huh.
I don't know, I guess this is too much to expect from a Sanrio cartoon. Maybe it's already a big deal in Japanese culture for one to say how they really feel, and that's revolutionary in itself. Credit to this series, however, for teaching me Japanese elections. That deposit for candidacy thing is wild; it's ironic that election means freedom of choice for citizens, but the choices are limited to people who can cough up millions of cash. |
On the other hand, the finale does a good job on pointing the flaws that exist in the Japanese culture and politics, including, without mentioning by name, the fact that Japan depends too much from another, more powerful entity, in this case, the US, and the current gerontocracy that rules Japan, since older people are the ones behind all the important decisions in Japanese daily life.
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Wyvern
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:06 pm
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One of the things that make Aggretsuko so remarkable is that it was every single episode was written and directed by the same person (Rarecho, who quite appropriately also provides Retsuko's Death Metal voice.) That gave the show a real clarity of purpose, a consistent and unique voice that you don't see in a lot of anime. That didn't always make the show better (as others have noted, the tendency to return to status quo at the end of each season got kind of ridiculous) but it did make it unique and fascinating, and made its political bent feel all the more genuine.
I realize that because of how anime is produced, it's really difficult to make a show with just a single primary writer/director like this. The showrunner model we're used to seeing in America doesn't quite translate to Japan. But with the streaming format, it is possible, and this show proved it can also be successful. I hope we see more auteur-driven projects like Aggretsuko in the future.
As for this final season, this show continues to be excellent at cramming lots of story and character growth into its short runtimes. That they managed to include Haida's unemployment storyline, Retsuko and Haida meeting each others' parents, and the election arc, all without it feeling rushed, was really amazing.
At least until the final episode, which does feel a bit rushed. Mostly, I really wanted to hear Shikabane sing (I assume her genre would be goth or emo rock) and get some more specifics about her struggle. Instead all we get is a single still image and then one last shot of her looking for an apartment. She's a fascinating character, interesting enough that she could carry her own series. It feels like we should have gotten more of her at the end. And likewise, the main characters get married and it's never even acknowledged outside of a five second shot in a montage? What the hell? It makes sense that they wouldn't want to make a big fuss, but it seems like they didn't even tell anybody. I feel like another ten minutes or so of runtime would have really helped this finale, but perhaps that just wasn't in the budget. It happens.
Those minor issues aside, this show is a true classic, and I'm really going to miss it. Rage on, you funky little panda.
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