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Forum - View topicNEWS: Former Employees Sue Good Smile for Distributing 'Potentially Obscene Sexually Explicit Anime
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omoikane
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This clause makes no sense if you came into the story without what the GSC suit was originally, but it makes sense if you already know. Given ANN didn't report on the first claim, I think this needs to be rewritten into an article or at least a paragraph, or link out to Polygon. |
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Blanchimont
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Suit doesn't seem to have much merit based on the details, just comes across as an angry temper tantrum, as one user on Kotaku put it...
And all their figurines are based on commercial game/anime and alike media characters, so can't see where the 'illegality' would exist... |
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FallenDomino
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Shoutout to Kotaku for overgeneralizing to the point of not giving a correct definition of "lolicon"
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ryanvamp
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I don't know how long it's going to take, but USA will indeed manage to ruin anime (and its merchandise) for the whole world sooner or later. Some companies WILL censor themselves for western sensibilities or downright refuse to commercialize some licenses overseas. That's my take away.
And this is coming from someone who does not consume the type of anime/figures these former employees are complaining about; but I've seen enough from current american culture to realize that outrage & censorship rarely extends to "just the actually questionable stuff". |
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animefan57892
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Scale figures are also a big portion of GSC's business. Don't know why ANN/kotaku frame GSC as 'Nendoroid and Figma toy' company.
Whatever you opinion of 4chan is, funding a controversial website is not a crime, whether their allegation is true or not. Puting the claim in a lawsuit is ridiculous. If those two former employees are so distressed by "sexually explicit underage" fictional characters, they should've looked at GSC's figure production history before joining the company. I just can't take their allegations seriously. |
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Tempest
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I often find that complaints about the definition of lolicon often come from readers who don't themselves understand what lolicon is, so I was fully expecting to disagree with you, but yeah, Kotaku's description of lolicon is a little inaccurate. |
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Greboruri
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It amuses me that most sites reporting on this are fine to report the lawsuit's claims unchallenged, while Good Smile's law suit against Brand and Kim barely gets a mention nor is it discussed in any great length. I also note while you asked Good Smile to comment, you didn't do the same for Brand and Kim's lawsuit against them.
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tfwnoymir
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Reading about it, it sounds like sour grapes for me. They've been fired for stealing company secrets and embezzlement and they're trying to cover their stuff up with nonsense counter-claims like this. It's one thing lolicon (and shotacon) is not illegal in California as far as I know (as we're talking about fictional characters' fictional ages), but I also don't know how funding a website - no matter what is my opinion about them (let's just say it's not positive) - is illegal. The only things that might have merit are these parts:
but they need to prove that too. Anyway, creating a moral panic around this is probably a waste of time, but I'm sure there are some folks who will take the bait willingly. |
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09jcg
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FallenDomino
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It's very inaccurate since a) the term didn't even originate in culture and b) using "underage characters" in place of "literal children" directs vitriol towards people who don't fit the description in the slightest. |
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Touma55
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Japan will be fine, but outside Japan? Yeah I could see it happening sadly. I just hope people don't become that moronic. |
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AJ (LordNikon)
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Brand and Kim's counter claim has to be one of stupidest things I have read in thirty plus years in journalism!
This is like getting a job at Hustler, then suing Larry Flint six months later because they object to pornography! Did they have any idea what anime culture is? This is just revenge complaint for their own wrongdoing.
Illegal activity isn't hard to prove, did they go to FTC or IRS before their termination? Doubtful. I think Japanese companies would have been on them if "improper licensing practices" happened. BTW "funding controversial website 4chan" is not illegal last time I check. |
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GNPixie
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All the articles read like they're pissed they got caught and are trying to pitch everything at the dartboard to see what even hits. GSC has been around for god knows how long and have always done what they've done. You had to know you were getting into before you joined.
And probably not true either. iirc, 4chan's always been mostly been run out of pocket (and bleeds money) It never had GSC ads(like, outright GSC ads) but did have J-List for years until Hiro took over iirc. So unless GSC had shares in J List, I don't see where that'd come from. |
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juaifan
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It's not but this whole lawsuit sounds like a frivolous attempt to take Good Smile down with these former employees and is nothing more than a hit piece. They're going for all the triggers in American culture like associating the company with lolicon and 4chan, none of which is actually illegal but a bunch of news sites will jump on and try to drum up bad PR for the company like every time the BBC puts out a scathing article condemning Japan for sexualizing minors in anime, or some CNN/Fox News segment on 4chan that blames it for a shooting. Nothing ever comes out of those, but I guess this is their Hail Mary play. |
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Rob19ny
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I would like to see the products in question first because it just sounds like they are wrongly including anime in order to try and make a case for themselves. |
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