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gpanthony
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 Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:58 pm
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This is so horrible to read about, I appreciate the courage of the artist and victim for coming forward with the account. Definitely going to try to make a donation to victim support agencies and share the comic.
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BlueAlf
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:15 pm
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This is one of the things that make you really angry.
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Lizzie_B
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:40 pm
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| BlueAlf wrote: | | This is one of the things that make you really angry. |
And makes you hate the government that condones this, but to remember to not hate all Chinese people for what those in charge are doing
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Engineering Nerd
Joined: 24 Apr 2008
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Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:25 am
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| Lizzie_B wrote: |
| BlueAlf wrote: | | This is one of the things that make you really angry. |
And makes you hate the government that condones this, but to remember to not hate all Chinese people for what those in charge are doing |
And I wholeheartedly thank you for this mentality. I was born in Liaoling province (the northeast region, in border with North Korea), China; and the city I lived has multiple minority ethnicity, including descendants with Japanese, Russian and Korean (mostly south korean) blood, and we live very peacefully, the local schools even encourage all students to respect each other's practices and religions, and even sharing festivals that aren't rooted in local history.
Each Chinese province is very different in terms of how much freedom state government has, and I certainly can say that at least in north and middle regions of China, where I live shortly and witness myself firsthand before moving to United States, does respect minority ethnicity and embrace them with open arms like "salad bowl concept" (then again, those areas are mostly urban and I can't say much to the relatively rural areas due to lack of exposure)
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AkumaChef
Joined: 10 Jan 2019
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:25 am
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| Lizzie_B wrote: | |
And makes you hate the government that condones this, but to remember to not hate all Chinese people for what those in charge are doing |
That is very true.
And while we're at it: this is also something very good to keep in mind when you vote in your own country. The Chinese government is not the only one guilty of abuses against its own people. People in positions of authority using that power to oppress people they don't like happens worldwide. This particular article happens to be about China, but the oppression of minorities has happened, and will continue to happen, everywhere on the planet. Don't think that this kind of thing doesn't happen in your or my country either, both past and present.
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Brutannica
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:36 am
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Thank you so much for this article on an important and infuriating topic. It's important that the word gets out about this atrocity against human rights.
But I have a quibble: I highly doubt the inmates would pray to Xi Jinping. Even if the Party's personality cult is getting extreme, it's still officially an atheist party and would never encourage the deification of its leader. Sure enough, the original manga says they "prayed for the Chairman's long life."
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Agent355
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:33 am
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The brutal oppression of the Uigher people in China right now is absolutely horrific. I don’t know what kind of international pressure other governments would be willing to try to put on China to make it clear that these human rights abuses aren’t sanctioned—it seems that the U.S., the EU, etc are either too busy with other crises, don’t want to threaten a stable economic situation with sanctions, or any number of other complex reasons for keeping quiet. That said, I’m glad she was able to get asylum. Way too many people aren’t.
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Kaylee Smerbeck
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:37 am
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Note that the west actually is not super opposed to this hell even plenty of Muslim countries (including west aligned) said China can do whatever
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Tsuna X
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:48 pm
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Respects to the author for highlighting this issue. I also respect ANN for actually addressing this kind of thing, I don't really expect that from news outlets anymore
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El Hermano
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Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:50 pm
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| Agent355 wrote: | | The brutal oppression of the Uigher people in China right now is absolutely horrific. I don’t know what kind of international pressure other governments would be willing to try to put on China to make it clear that these human rights abuses aren’t sanctioned—it seems that the U.S., the EU, etc are either too busy with other crises, don’t want to threaten a stable economic situation with sanctions, or any number of other complex reasons for keeping quiet. That said, I’m glad she was able to get asylum. Way too many people aren’t. |
China is on the U.N. Security Council. They're one of the permanent members. Any resolution of any kind which infringes on Chinese sovereignty would be vetoed by China. And assuming the rest of the Security Council decided to simply abandon the U.N. framework and directly intervene in China, you'd be delivering your armed forces into the reach of the single largest active-duty army in the world, to say nothing of provoking nuclear retaliation and suddenly finding ourselves in the Fallout universe. That's why nobody cares about Hong Kong either. You save more lives in the longrun by doing nothing.
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Yttrbio
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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:37 pm
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| El Hermano wrote: | | China is on the U.N. Security Council. They're one of the permanent members. Any resolution of any kind which infringes on Chinese sovereignty would be vetoed by China. And assuming the rest of the Security Council decided to simply abandon the U.N. framework and directly intervene in China, you'd be delivering your armed forces into the reach of the single largest active-duty army in the world, to say nothing of provoking nuclear retaliation and suddenly finding ourselves in the Fallout universe. That's why nobody cares about Hong Kong either. You save more lives in the longrun by doing nothing. |
Yeah, the "infringes on Chinese sovereignty" phrase is straight from the China propaganda manual. If the use of the term "you" wasn't enough of a giveaway. Would you like to now talk about how some people here are "uneducated" and saying "inaccurate" things?
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