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Forum - View topicEP. REVIEW: Dies Irae
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Nyren
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I don't mind Nazi's in my anime. If anything the main reason people are more up in arms than usual is because comparisons to Nazi's in the media have been everywhere this past year and has become a bit of a touchy subject for many. So naturally, throwing a Nazi front and center in an anime, let alone one that's powerful, was bound to draw some attention. But then you have to consider that this story was written, what, a decade or so ago? It wasn't as much of a touchy subject back then. This adaptation just came around at the wrong time.
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Animechic420
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I still would like to know what a Japanese boy has to do with any of this?
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Yttrbio
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That's the question that would kill a thousand anime if taken seriously.
There's something deeply humorous about being dream-transported into what is essentially a musical where the crowd starts singing a song to celebrate your beheading. Let's see more of that kind of thing. |
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AksaraKishou
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I believe Red got called Cagliostro. If i'm not wrong, wasn't that OP-Blondie's side kick? |
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Nordhmmer
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Frankly for me,using the main planner behind the Wannsee Conference along with creating the SD goes too far. And this has nothing to do with what is going on here in the States. I've had no problem nor an issue before with depictions of Nazis in Western or Eastern fictional works. Exploding Hitler zombie clones no worries but using a prettied-up Reinhard Heydrich, it just crosses the line for me. |
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Guile
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American media may have twisted and reduced the definition of a Nazi to 'anyone I disagree with', but that should have zero impact on a show from another country. If a viewer can't disconnect that from a show, it's their own fault. Japan will continue to make Nazi stuff, and German-centric workx because it has a large fanbase. Youjo Senki was very popular last season |
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BlueAlf
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...This might be just me, but my gut is telling that the animation quality might improve later on.
Nevertheless, since I'm not exactly a history buff, I didn't feel disturbed by this series so far. At least, I want to see how it does its fight scenes again. If the quality really is a repeat of episode 0, only then I'll reconsider. |
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#Verso.Sciolto
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CrowLia
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How is anyone supposed to "disconnect" when the characters in the show are named after the actual literal orchestrators of one of the most heinous crimes against humanity in history. Vaguely nazi parafernalia is one thing, but when the characters are glamorized interpretations of actual historical nazis it is the show's fault if people are icked away at first glance |
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danpmss
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To be fair, it's just mindless chuunibyou fun, they are the freaking villains anyway, and nazis, whether we like it or not, were quite the charismatic figures in their time which many idolized too (in their regime, of course). Kinda reminds me that one of the biggest liberal Shonen Jump Weekly activist right now (J.K. Rowling) herself said she has a kink for nazis, as they were hot. Their embellished appearance means nothing, the devil is attractive by definition too. |
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BlueAlf
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Sorry. I really know nothing. To me, those terms and names you mentioned are actually unfamiliar. It's not that I haven't been educated that the Nazis were bad guys. It's just that in the place where I come from, other historical events, which are closer in proximity to where I live, yet not less shocking in terms of inhumanity, are given more emphasis. Like what danpmss said, I think it's more of a chuunibyou thing in the case of Dies Irae. That's why it's actually difficult for me to take things seriously. |
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TarsTarkas
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Each to their own, but this is a recent social problem. |
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#Verso.Sciolto
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It can perhaps also be illustrated why it matters. If you take the people who perpetrated the crimes you mention -from the past in the area where you were raised- and cast them in the roles in the first episode of this anime, I think that gives a good idea how this series' creators are misguided in their casting based on historical people. You've probably written your reply in this way because you'd like to keep your location to yourself but even without knowing whom you have in mind it is unfortunately true and easy to acknowledge that history is indeed in too many places full of atrocities. |
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Guile
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Not that, I mean Nyren's comment on saying this show came out at the wrong time. If you don't want to watch a show about Nazis thats one thing. It doesn't matter when something comes out, especially something made in another country. |
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Grendel8
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‘Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.’
The controversial characters aside, so far I have seen nothing that interests me. From design to story to music, it seems run of the mill bland. I expected more. I do find the character similarities to actual historical figures and groups to be in poor taste. Each individual's taste may vary, but I will probably only put up with one more episode before throwing this series in the trash. |
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