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FilthyCasual
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I assume Omori means Syr, and hope we finally get details on her relationship to Freya. Is she a Spirit? Also Wiene spoiler[growing her second wing when?] |
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Nordhmmer
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@FilthyCasual
Considering her Norse mythology,another(of many) name for Freya is Sýr. In her Norse mythology she has a twin brother, Freyr. Who among other things ruled over Álfheimr, the realm of the Elves. I've,along with other fans, longed assumed that spoiler[ Syr would turn out to be Freya's twin sibling] |
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myskaros
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I did not like this volume. It felt like Omori decided on the fly to add racism to his world, but realized it would be a stretch to just throw it in without making sure we knew the complete history and all the implications, so he wrote an academic essay about it. Then he noticed it was a bit short of a book, so he tossed in the characters and added some hijinks.
After 8 books of plot progression, character development, or frequently both, it was a huge disappointment to get to this volume that has neither. This late in the game, getting an entirely new plot out of nowhere at the expense of advancing the previous plot was a real letdown. If it were at least heavily foreshadowed in previous volumes, it wouldn't be so bad, but this development really came out of thin air. |
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Key
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Oh, I hadn't thought of her. Yeah, I imagine that's probably who Omori means, especially since he did drop some significant hints last volume that Syr is more significant to Freya than she had previously appeared to be.
No, there's always been a bit of racism around, as he's made occasional indications that prums usually don't get much respect.
I disagree that there was no set-up here. Omori has been hinting for a long time now that Ouranos and Fels were up to something beyond the ken of adventurers or even the main body of the Guild, and now we know what. Last edited by Key on Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:37 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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myskaros
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It's a pretty big jump from "they're doing something shady" to "omg, monster-people now exist!" That's what I mean, there was a pretty extensive plot going on between exploring the dungeon, inter-familia politics, undercity dealings, and the guild's role in all 3. Since these were the only elements the plot had prior to volume 9, the hints regarding Ouranos naturally implied that it dealt with one of those. There were no hints that monster-people existed before. I concede that racism between the adventurer races existed before, but I was specifically referring to the monster-racism thing. Monster-people did not "exist" in the audience's mind until this volume. After he made them, because there was no setup for it, Omori had to lecture us on what it means and why it's important, and that took away from stuff like character development. The fact that it's a two-parter also hurts because we don't know how this affects the overall plot. I'm hoping it'll be worth it, but, on the other hand, I just want to see them fight stuff and descend in the dungeon. After three volumes of familia politics (2 of which I really liked, don't get me wrong), we finally dive back into the dungeon only for there to be no real dungeon progression since now it's turned into a societal/black market issue. |
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Key
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Based on the blurb for volume 10, I don't think you have to worry about the dungeon action going away. In fact, the second half of the story sounds like it's going to be more dungeon-intensive than the first half. |
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myskaros
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Good to hear! I typically just ignore summaries and buy all the next books because I know I'm going to read it and I feel like it's better experienced without preconceptions :3
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jr240483
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i wouldnt be so sure about that. compared to the massive BS lilly went through, i would say her kind gets even worse treatment and even less respect than the prums. |
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Key
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Um, Lilly is a prum. She just uses her magic to pass as other races at times. (I think you probably mean supporters, which is an occupation, not a race.) |
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siromkun
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I have been wondering for a while now...but is't Oomori Fujino a female?
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Blanchimont
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Few online online databases list her as female, but no idea how accurate that info is... |
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myskaros
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This press release referred to him with male pronouns, maybe someone who went to AX can confirm?
animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2017-05-26/fujino-omori-creator-of-is-it-wrong-to-try-to-pick-up-girls-in-a-dungeon-is-coming-to-anime-expo-2017/.116647 |
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jr240483
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guess i'll need to read the LN since part of the manga states that supporters are part of a race, though it was so vague on the description of a supporter that it definitely needs some clarification. its unfortunately one of the small flaws on the author's work. clarification on some of the races as well as some of the gods from that series. not to mention that the manga stated she was a half blood and she doesnt even considered herself to be a real one after the massive treatment she received from birth and during her time with the soma familia. |
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Key
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If the manga actually lists Supporter as a race then it's outright wrong, as it's clearly-shown as an occupation in both the anime and the LNs. It being an occupation is also a loooooong-standing aspect of tabletop fantasy RPG play, so much so that it's often made fun of in FRPG-based humor.
And there's no indication in the LNs or anime that Liliruca isn't full-blooded prum. Again, if the manga is even hinting that then it's outright wrong. |
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