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NEWS: Sentai Filmworks Licenses Action Heroine Cheer Fruits Anime




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zrnzle500



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:54 am Reply with quote
Since it wasn't announced by Strike, I'm guessing this will go to HIDIVE. Not much else premiering today so I'll check it out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:13 am Reply with quote
Great, so higher chance for better titles on CR.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:17 am Reply with quote
Oh great, here I thought that Sentai/Amazon was done ruining my crunchyroll season. Turns out just Amazon is done. Now I have to be worried about shows I am anticipating again. If Sentai gets enough stuff on HiDive I won't be opposed to signing up but I am still mad at them for there stupid choice to work with Amazon. If them licensing stuff on their own more is a sign of anything I'd say it means they are trying to set up their own stuff for when Amazon either throws them to the curb or decides to get out of the Anime business because some big wigs decide it isn't worth investing money into anymore (I hope this happens soon as I feel it will happen). Amazon probably has a 1 year contract with Sentai that has them handle the licensing and Sentai knows that they have to repair their image after a lot of Anime fans have become annoyed with them over the Strike thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:21 am Reply with quote
Not all that surprised that Sentai went after the sentai anime.
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dragonrider_cody



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:42 am Reply with quote
zrnzle500 wrote:
Since it wasn't announced by Strike, I'm guessing this will go to HIDIVE. Not much else premiering today so I'll check it out.


I would guess so as well. They've been specifically mentioning Strike when shows are going to stream there. Plus, in seasons past, even when they were working with CR, they always have at least one or two shows that either streamed exclusively on TAN, or premiered there before hitting other services. Since HIDIVE is taking their spot, I assume it will be the same with them.

Now, I'm just curious if Sentai is completely done with announcements, or will we get a few more from them.
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Random Name



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:18 pm Reply with quote
Not unexpected since it seems like the show was made for sentai but still sad...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:03 pm Reply with quote
Not really surprising given that its a TBS title
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:44 pm Reply with quote
Huh. I kinda like the designs, and I love that one of them is in a wheelchair. I'll probably make an effort to watch this. (Depending on what kind of subscription/how costly.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:20 pm Reply with quote
SlamMan wrote:
Amazon probably has a 1 year contract with Sentai that has them handle the licensing and Sentai knows that they have to repair their image after a lot of Anime fans have become annoyed with them over the Strike thing.


Your post is literally the first one on the ANN forums that I've seen which actively blames Sentai for their involvement in AnimeStrike, so I would submit that it really hasn't hurt them as much as you think.

Personally, as someone who consumes far more anime via Bluray than simulcast, I couldn't care less where a show streams. It's actually the opposite: I'm much, much less inclined to watch a simulcast if Aniplex or Ponycanyon has already announced that they will be responsible for the show's Region 1 physical release.
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ultimatemegax



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:43 pm Reply with quote
BodaciousSpacePirate wrote:
SlamMan wrote:
Amazon probably has a 1 year contract with Sentai that has them handle the licensing and Sentai knows that they have to repair their image after a lot of Anime fans have become annoyed with them over the Strike thing.


Your post is literally the first one on the ANN forums that I've seen which actively blames Sentai for their involvement in AnimeStrike, so I would submit that it really hasn't hurt them as much as you think.

Personally, as someone who consumes far more anime via Bluray than simulcast, I couldn't care less where a show streams. It's actually the opposite: I'm much, much less inclined to watch a simulcast if Aniplex or Ponycanyon has already announced that they will be responsible for the show's Region 1 physical release.


Sentai's gotten a lot of attention towards them on Twitter (and likely Facebook) everytime they tweet about a new show on Strike, so it's more prevelant than just on here, where I have seen comments about Sentai shows on Strike.

Time will tell if potential lower numbers on Strike reflect on Sentai's disc sales. They can't keep relying on old niche catalog titles forever. I considered buying Tamako Love Story to have an Eng version to show people (own the JP BD), but since they're pitching a hissy fit over the Crunchy/Funi partnership, I decided not to reward childish behavior.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:12 pm Reply with quote
ultimatemegax wrote:
BodaciousSpacePirate wrote:


Your post is literally the first one on the ANN forums that I've seen which actively blames Sentai for their involvement in AnimeStrike, so I would submit that it really hasn't hurt them as much as you think.

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Sentai's gotten a lot of attention towards them on Twitter (and likely Facebook) everytime they tweet about a new show on Strike, so it's more prevelant than just on here, where I have seen comments about Sentai shows on Strike.

Time will tell if potential lower numbers on Strike reflect on Sentai's disc sales. They can't keep relying on old niche catalog titles forever. I considered buying Tamako Love Story to have an Eng version to show people (own the JP BD), but since they're pitching a hissy fit over the Crunchy/Funi partnership, I decided not to reward childish behavior.



From the Facebook posts that I looked at on Sentai's page, each announcement was met with a pretty negative reaction from people who either did not want to buy into the double pay wall, or people that did have a Strike subscription, but disliked it because it was low quality for the price (missing episodes, late episodes, etc.)

I think a lot of people probably realized that Sentai needed an influx of cash, even if it meant making a very unpopular business move. At this point though, I would guess (or maybe hope) that Sentai won't be putting so content on Strike. HIDIVE will have a hard time if the new shows all end up on Strike, the public response to the Strike exclusives has been negative, and now Amazon is contracting for entire blocks, so it seems like Amazon is kind of done with them anyway.
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dragonrider_cody



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:06 am Reply with quote
ultimatemegax wrote:
BodaciousSpacePirate wrote:
SlamMan wrote:
Amazon probably has a 1 year contract with Sentai that has them handle the licensing and Sentai knows that they have to repair their image after a lot of Anime fans have become annoyed with them over the Strike thing.


Your post is literally the first one on the ANN forums that I've seen which actively blames Sentai for their involvement in AnimeStrike, so I would submit that it really hasn't hurt them as much as you think.

Personally, as someone who consumes far more anime via Bluray than simulcast, I couldn't care less where a show streams. It's actually the opposite: I'm much, much less inclined to watch a simulcast if Aniplex or Ponycanyon has already announced that they will be responsible for the show's Region 1 physical release.


Sentai's gotten a lot of attention towards them on Twitter (and likely Facebook) everytime they tweet about a new show on Strike, so it's more prevelant than just on here, where I have seen comments about Sentai shows on Strike.

Time will tell if potential lower numbers on Strike reflect on Sentai's disc sales. They can't keep relying on old niche catalog titles forever. I considered buying Tamako Love Story to have an Eng version to show people (own the JP BD), but since they're pitching a hissy fit over the Crunchy/Funi partnership, I decided not to reward childish behavior.


How is taking money from a large corporation when you need a cash infusion "pitching a hissy fit"? Was Funi agreeing to do DVD only sets specifically for Walmart also "pitching a hissy fit"?

And what was the better option for Sentai? I haven't heard a single come forth with a better plan for them. They needed money to compete with Funi and CR, which Amazon offered them.

And has anyone considered the possibility that Amazon could have gone after many of these shows themselves? At least with it in Sentai's hands, we are guaranteed a physical release at a fairly affordable price, and eventually the show will stream on other sites. If Amazon had gone this totally alone, it could have been far, far worse.
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ultimatemegax



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:36 am Reply with quote
dragonrider_cody wrote:
ultimatemegax wrote:
Sentai's gotten a lot of attention towards them on Twitter (and likely Facebook) everytime they tweet about a new show on Strike, so it's more prevelant than just on here, where I have seen comments about Sentai shows on Strike.

Time will tell if potential lower numbers on Strike reflect on Sentai's disc sales. They can't keep relying on old niche catalog titles forever. I considered buying Tamako Love Story to have an Eng version to show people (own the JP BD), but since they're pitching a hissy fit over the Crunchy/Funi partnership, I decided not to reward childish behavior.


How is taking money from a large corporation when you need a cash infusion "pitching a hissy fit"? Was Funi agreeing to do DVD only sets specifically for Walmart also "pitching a hissy fit"?

And what was the better option for Sentai? I haven't heard a single come forth with a better plan for them. They needed money to compete with Funi and CR, which Amazon offered them.

And has anyone considered the possibility that Amazon could have gone after many of these shows themselves? At least with it in Sentai's hands, we are guaranteed a physical release at a fairly affordable price, and eventually the show will stream on other sites. If Amazon had gone this totally alone, it could have been far, far worse.

Sentai has has such a hissy fit about Crunchyroll that they've required foreign licensors in UK/AU not to sublicense shows to them in different regions (that wouldn't even affect Sentai directly). That is childish, not your example. You merely assume that asking for money was "childish," yet I said nothing about funding.

You continue to bring up the "possibility" that Amazon could've gone after these directly, yet you offer no proof of it. The titles that they only carry in the US are from Kadokawa, Showgate, and TBS, who Sentai have licensed from. If Amazon directly licensed these titles, then why would they sublicense them to HiDive in other Eng territory regions (who happen to be the same exact regions that Sentai has rights to in the past) instead of streaming there directly like the titles they've licensed from Fuji/MBS? The foreign licensors also directly say Sentai is the one with rights, not Amazon, yet you continue to try to deflect any and all criticism for this decision to Amazon. Interesting.

As for other plans, one merely needs to look at Viz to see one other possibility: directly partnering with Hulu/Yahoo View. There's propping up Viewster as well. Or they could've bided their time and promoted HiDive as their exclusive streaming area, which is probably what will happen with this title (tying it back to the article). Instead, they're getting a lot of backlash for their decision to go with Amazon exclusively. Notice how no one is getting upset at Aniplex despite this forum's tendency to blame them for everything? If Sentai's model requires them to have a "sudden influx" of money, perhaps they should do something about raising prices of their sets or not allowing companies to price them cheaply on sales or perhaps not pay as much for niche shows that won't sell. Trying to "compete" if you don't have the ability to do so is only going to hurt your company in the long run; there's a reason NIS America bowed out of selling anime.
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