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Forum - View topicNEWS: Shinkai's 'your name.' Anime Film Earns 20 Billion Yen, Expands to IMAX in January
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KH91
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Mega Shinkai! The domination won't stop.
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Morry
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IMAX, huh? I'm curious how much that'd enhance the experience. Can't think of the last 2-D animated film I'd seen in IMAX.
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Kaitonic
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This is just phenomenal.
It is the 2nd Japanese movie to reach over 20 billions and though it might not reach 30 billions of Spirited Away but it meat beat Spirited Away worldwide. |
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Pierrot.
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It's funny how people argue anime is a niche market in Japan when their highest grossing films are anime.
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Inopethflames
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When will the USA release dates be announced. I'm sure there's no chance of IMAX here other than maybe LA or NY, unfortunately, it's so much better than regular. I don't really like to see any movie non-IMAX cause it's so much better.
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Jayhosh
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That's true, but keep in mind that until now all of those have been Studio Ghibli/Miyazaki films, which means the popularity might have been attributed to Ghibli and Miyazaki specifically, not necessarily anime as a medium. But with Your Name that perception has definitely changed. Only time will tell if it's success was a simple fluke or a sign of things to come. |
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Morry
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The reason animated films do well is because Japan is culturally more accepting of the animated medium across all ages than, say, the U.S. What we call "anime" though, is a niche market targeted at otokus. That statement can start becoming ironic when SAO or Black Butler make top 10.
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Jayhosh
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Well to be fair, that level of thinking could also be applied to western animation that get film adaptions in the US. Are Spongebob or The Simpsons aimed at a "niche" market simply because their theatrical films haven't cracked the top ten grosses (or even twenty) of all time? Hell, Powerpuff Girls was absolutely huge around the time its film came out and that totally bombed. I just think it boils down to there being a different audience for theatrical films and television, and those audiences simply consume their media in different forms. That's why original properties (or sequels to them), whether in Japan or Hollywood or anywhere else, tend to perform the best at the box office. Even so, the performance of franchise films for series such as One Piece and Evangelion is nothing to sneer at either. |
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Pranav Arora
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Any chance this will release in India?
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Kon'Doriano
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Woah, it'd be cool to watch a 2-D film in IMAX. Too bad I can't see it in such a format. I've always liked Shinkai's work so when this movie came out I was surprised to see that he's getting the recognition he deserves. Can't wait for the film to come overseas, I need to see what the hype is all about.
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ew121
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That's because what people are talking about is 90% of anime, there are a select few that pander to mainstream public so they obviously get that mainstream public but otherwise large majority of anime is niche, majority of popular anime are targetted to kids with a few of them targetting the entire family . Your Name is very friendly towards people that don't watch anime, it could've been a live action and it could've been fine, but most anime are not targetted to that public. The reason why manga is accepted more than anime is this, because manga has several stories that are not the kind of thing you see get adapted(ie late night otaku anime like Fate/Zero or SAO that make people cringe). There's a ton of manga that you don't even know exist but Japanese do and they like it, you see 40 year old reading manga in Japan but a small crazed market(otaku) buy overpriced BDs and merch of their waifu. |
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Ambimunch
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Oh wow, nothing stops this train!
Shit, now I gotta go see it. When is Funi bringing this to North American theaters? |
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Kadmos1
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When you compare it to the population/land area of the USA, it is still niche (country to country size) though the latter has smaller annual earnings of anime. |
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I'm just talking about Japan here. |
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Jose Cruz
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That's the American view of the world: USA = World. The logic is as follows: Anime is niche in the USA by implication anime is niche everywhere in the world, hence, niche in Japan. How niche manga/anime is? Well, live action Japanese movies make 50-60 billion yen on gross every year many of which are manga adaptations while manga sales are 500 billion yen and the anime industry is about 250 billion yen. It's true, however, that the stuff American anime fans like most of the time is niche but that's because most of the stuff (in any medium) is niche, hence since 95% of everything is niche (for example the US produces 800 movies every year, but only 30-40 of these movies are popular though, who has watched number 92 of American box office, Love the Coopers in this forum?) then 95% of anime is niche and then it's natural that 95% of a hardcore anime fan's favorites will be niche as well. One thing about North American anime fans is that they are hardcore: if you are American you either don't know what "manga" is or you are a hardcore fan who watched Utena, RahXephon and Haibane Renmei. It's like soccer, in the US 90% of the population don't watch soccer but the 10% that do are more fanatic than the average Brazilian. Now, in a couple of decades I believe manga/anime will be more popular worldwide than Hollywood movies are. The reason is that in China manga is growing in popularity (and Shinkai movie is looking like it is going to top the box office there as well) as well as in India and those two countries have more people than all the people in the world who are exposed to Hollywood movies. Although Hollywood movies are also growing big in China but I doubt it will remain so because the Chinese film industry is growing fast and will probably surpass Hollywood in size in a few years.
SAO is so niche (sarcasm): the novels only sold 19 million copies in Japan so far. In proportion to population SAO novels sold about as much in per capita terms as niche titles in the US like Harry Potter and Fifty Shades of Grey. I also don't think Fate Stay Night can be regarded as niche in Japan considering the massive amount of fan art they make of it in sites like Pivix. It's true that SAO aims at a specific demographic: teenagers. Fate Stay Night aims at slightly older people. It's unlikely for you to see a 45 year old Japanese woman watching Fate Zero in the same way it's unlikely you will see a 15 year old American boy reading Fifty Shades of Gray. It doesn't imply Fifty Shades of Grey is niche in America. |
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