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Kagemusha
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:55 am
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I assume the film did well, as everyone was expecting it to.
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LordByronius
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:05 am
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Jeez, has the movie even opened yet?
As for the Oscar, a nomination is assured so long as Sony doesn't LEAVE THIS MOVIE TO DIE on only 10 screens. "Major markets" my foot; no movie will ever be awarded anything by the Hollywood community unless it plays on at least 160 screens.
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Vekou
Joined: 07 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:44 am
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I think Steamboy premiered today in Japan. Columbia Tristar has already licensed it in the U.S. (in fact, it was quite some time ago) - that doesn't happen very often!
Either way, I can't wait, and I wish Katsuhiro Otomo and the rest of the team the very best of luck and hope for a smashing success on both sides of the Pacific (though I'm sure it's going to do fantastic in Japan).
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ZODDGUTS
Joined: 27 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:03 am
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"It was officially announced yesterday (July 17th) that a sequel to Steamboy is in the works and is planned to be released in two to three years (whereas the first movie took over nine years to produce)."
Wait it took nine years to finish making the movie? Damn the movie must be really good then.
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AMAZE
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:53 am
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ZODDGUTS wrote: | Wait it took nine years to finish making the movie? Damn the movie must be really good then. |
That, or really bad...
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Cheesemon
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:35 am
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Arg, I hate it when they announce sequels before or just when a movie opens. Now I know Steamboy doesn't die
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Dan42
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:54 am
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It didn't actually take full 9 years of production to finish, it's just that there were a lot of delays (funding, planning) before the production began (or at least that's what I remember).
Having said that, I went to see the movie yesterday and it IS very good. The story itself seemed a little mundane (which may be due to my far-from-perfect understanding of Japanese), but at the very least is was well executed. But what's most important here is that Katsuhiro Otomo is at his best when animating destruction on a grand scale, and he does not disapoint. He has crafed a grandiose steam-punk world that you could almost believe really existed near the end of the 19th century. And those behemoth steam-powered machines unleash lushly-animated destruction on a scale like only Otomo can do. A visual feast if there ever was one.
At the end of the movie, we were treated to a slideshow of images from the future adventures of Ray Steam. It gave me the impression that there was a manga and that this was an omake for fans of the manga, but in light of the Steamboy 2 news, it seems it was carefully planned. If the images we saw were correct, Steamboy 2 will see Ray fight some steam-powered monster in Paris...
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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:20 am
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Byron:
Quote: | "Major markets" my foot; no movie will ever be awarded anything by the Hollywood community unless it plays on at least 160 screens. |
Or gets advertised in an industry trade publication. (*cough* Dreamworks and Millennium Actress *cough*)
Vekou:
Quote: | Columbia Tristar has already licensed it in the U.S. (in fact, it was quite some time ago) - that doesn't happen very often! |
Sony Japan was probably one of the original studios which funded the production, so acquiring it was a fait accompli.
Quote: | Either way, I can't wait, and I wish Katsuhiro Otomo and the rest of the team the very best of luck |
I wish they'd visit L.A. myself.
Dan:
Quote: | Having said that, I went to see the movie yesterday and it IS very good. The story itself seemed a little mundane (which may be due to my far-from-perfect understanding of Japanese), but at the very least is was well executed. |
So I gather we're getting another Spriggan-like film instead of an Akira-like film? Although at least Spriggan didn't remind me of Nadia...
Quote: | But what's most important here is that Katsuhiro Otomo is at his best when animating destruction on a grand scale |
Actually, he's at his best when he questions the function and value of technology in society. If I want to see things go boom and "blow up good", I'll watch DBZ.
Quote: | At the end of the movie, we were treated to a slideshow of images from the future adventures of Ray Steam. It gave me the impression that there was a manga |
Probably. Many Otomo films are adaptations.
Anyway, the sequel thing bothers me. It sounds like Otomo wanted a longer film-hence the initial delays-but the marketing people wanted to recoup their costs, so they decided to pull a Kill Bill and make Steamboy a two-parter. It will have less chances of winning an Oscar if it's open-ended. And I think Innocence will probably be the best contender, because-at least judging from the trailers-it has the greatest technical achievements of all the animated films being released this year. (And yes, that includes the pre-overrated Incredibles.) I don't see anything new in Steamboy's trailers that I haven't already seen in Akira, Memories and Metropolis. Although, ironically, being a bigger Otomo fan, I have higher expectations for Steamboy. Still, the more I see of Innocence, the more I'm intrigued, while the more I see of Steamboy, the more I'm disappointed. I just hope I don't get stuck with that family-friendly print of the latter film when it comes out in the U.S.
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jfrog
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:00 am
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Except that everybody who's seen Innocence agrees that it's pretty bad, myself included. It'll go over as well as a Matrix sequel with the critics.
Quote: | So I gather we're getting another Spriggan-like film instead of an Akira-like film? Although at least Spriggan didn't remind me of Nadia... |
Steamboy reminds you of Nadia? That series wasn't the birth of steampunk, you know. And I think it'll more be the next Metropolis (nothing we haven't seen before, but looks great and is lots of fun) instead of the next Spriggan (generic).
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:22 am
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jfrog:
Quote: | Except that everybody who's seen Innocence agrees that it's pretty bad, myself included. It'll go over as well as a Matrix sequel with the critics. |
Actually, Reloaded did pretty well with critics, given the fact that they trash most big-budget summer movies just because they're big-budget summer movies. (Although I don't entirely blame them sometimes.) As for Innocence, well, let's just say it's a b*tch having to crawl out of the Wachowskis' shadows. I mean look at I, Robot. The director's previous work, Dark City, might've influenced the Matrix, and yet now his robots look like those in the Animatrix. Anyway, Innocence lost to one of the One Piece movies at the Japanese box office, so I'll probably like it.
jfrog:
Quote: | Steamboy reminds you of Nadia? That series wasn't the birth of steampunk, you know. |
Ok, Laputa.
Quote: | And I think it'll more be the next Metropolis (nothing we haven't seen before, but looks great and is lots of fun) |
Actually, stylistically, Metropolis was nothing I hadn't seen before, but story-wise, it had a lot more going for it than most of the robot anime that was popular when it came out. But I don't see anything which suggests an original style or story in Steamboy.
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jfrog
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:53 am
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What? No Jules Verne?
Quote: | Actually, stylistically, Metropolis was nothing I hadn't seen before, but story-wise, it had a lot more going for it than most of the robot anime that was popular when it came out. |
What? Visually, it was much more interesting and groundbreaking than it was storywise.
Quote: | Actually, Reloaded did pretty well with critics, given the fact that they trash most big-budget summer movies just because they're big-budget summer movies. (Although I don't entirely blame them sometimes.) As for Innocence, well, let's just say it's a b*tch having to crawl out of the Wachowskis' shadows. I mean look at I, Robot. The director's previous work, Dark City, might've influenced the Matrix, and yet now his robots look like those in the Animatrix. |
I compared Innocence to the Matrix sequels because they're insufferable in exactly the same way. And while Matrix Reloaded may have gotten a better critical reception than most summer blockbusters, no one thought it was anything close Oscar caliber. And I don't think I've come across a single reviewer who liked Revolutions.
Quote: | Anyway, Innocence lost to one of the One Piece movies at the Japanese box office, so I'll probably like it. |
Innocence and One Piece have very different target audiences.
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:56 pm
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jfrog:
Quote: | Innocence and One Piece have very different target audiences. |
Yep. Guess which one audience I fall under.
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