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Richard J.
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Good luck, you're really going to need it. I'm not trying to be sarcastic either, I really do hope they can accomplish something, but they're going to need a lot of luck and a willingness to keep the preasure on.
At least they're talking about the elephant in the room everyone else seems to want to ignore. People's jobs are at stake. Future productions are at stake. I think everyone should take note, even hentai is having trouble! When the illegal downloaders are ripping R1 DVDs and even charging people for the downloads, I think we should all be able to agree that things have gone way beyond the old harmless fansubbing. |
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Mr. Anobe
 Posts: 47 Location: Canada |
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Well, the problem is...there's not so much exposure to hentai than anime itself in general. Especially in our country where the "h-titles" are "scarce", in other words very very small amount of hentai titles go through to our country. I know, our government wouldn't allow some of these titles to go through, because of the so-called "overly-explicit" content. So, unfortunately, these downloads are the only way to get exposure or even get through to our country without all that filtering-BS.
Anyways, going back the exposure part, I think they should go forward with the digital downloads of these titles and charge for a certain price. Most of us "anime fans" don't go to these adult stores without embarrassing ourselves to buy hentai titles, nor purchasing DVDs online without seeing credit card statements with "porn-ish" transactions sticking out like a sore thumb. As well, in our case in Canada, without getting halted by the freakin' government with their overly-exaggerated import restrictions. So, most of us "anime fans" go to these downloads and watch them for those particular reasons. |
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tvacnaar
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Well I personally don't download hentai, but I am personally outraged at the poor pricing of most series nowadays. The price point is $10 - $12 per episode. and your getting at most 4 episodes of a dvd I understand why people download it instead of pay inflated prices. I still pay for all of my anime but I say that with my wife being pregnant and a baby on the way I will not be able to purchase said products not that the minds out there really care.
Now I do have one major complaint, with the number of mainstream series now heading to the states, Why isn't there a free site to download an episode or two two help decide if a series is worth the hefty price tag. |
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Mr. Anobe
Posts: 47 Location: Canada |
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Well, there's ADV with their free one episode per download offer on some of their series, but they need to be open on both markets and not just the American markets...we have anime fans too in the Great White North you know. Just saying that for example, I could be wrong about that...
But yeah, I do have to agree on your concern, and that's where part of the less exposure comes from is the lack of variety and offers on these "h"-titles and other anime titles before we decide to make a purchase. |
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kokuryu
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Ah well I can understand these two companies taking this stance - their licensed videos are 90% of whats out there for illegal downloads. Good luck to them. Personally I think they would do better by getting the download places to pay them a fee every time one of their items is viewed or downloaded, then everyone gets paid and nothing has to stop, and they dont have to set up a market - its already there.
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omar235
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Well all I can really say is good luck to.
QFT. Seriously it really has become out of hand. |
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ikillchicken
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Fansubs: Killing the Porn Industry
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cloud1989
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wouldn't the people ripping dvd's and charging for download be the uploaders? Anyways this kinda sucks, not because There trying to eliminate free downloads but because a lot of legit dvd's are 1 episode for $30, the prices are to high for most normal people to afford a decent collection without sacrificing other hobbies. I would be willing to pay for hentai dvds if they always did 2 eps a disc for $20, or allowed online purchase for a few dollars, but not literally $1 a minute.
and on a side note http://www.p2p-blog.com/item-361.html looks like regular porn companies are starting to follow a similar procedure, all you porn lovers better watch out. |
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Tyrenol
Posts: 398 Location: Northern California |
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The people who say that "$30" is too high don't know that there are sites to buy them from at a lower price.
The people who are afraid of embarrasment when purchasing an adult anime DVD at a physical store just need to man up. Seriously. Bottom line: Stop believing that this stuff is free. It isn't. Man up and pay up. Or else you'll lose all decision-making power as so-called "fans." |
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teh*darkness
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The problem here is, most hentai is released in japan, one episode per disc, usually at a cost of anywhere from 5000-6500 yen, if not more, which is appx. 44-57 USD. So getting the same thing, dubbed+subbed, for only 30 USD, is actually a good deal. It's just more expensive than regular porn. |
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cloud1989
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that is japan and this is america, most things in japan are overpriced compared to here, very overpriced. regardless of whether you think its worth it, most people buy anime at 2-5 eps a disc a around $20, maybe $25. When they want hentai and see 1 and 2 eps. disc for $30 they really don't want to pay because its way beyond their normal spending habits. Yes, some places offer discounts but I can't find much less than $5 off, and while looking around I found that there are quite a few 2 eps disc as well, but that doesn't change the fact that $30 for 30 or 60 minutes is alot to pay for whack off material, that kind off money can buy a legit subscription to a real porn site for a month, $20 of that could but a 1 to 2 hour porn movie, maybe 2 movies. It may be cheap compared to japan, but the prices are far over what the american society would want to spend porn. I would say offering hentai at normal anime prices would produce good results as far as fighting against piracy.
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omar235
Posts: 1572 Location: Florida, Jacksonvile |
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What really makes me angry is when they try to sell the stuff they stole to me. I mean come on how is me giving them money going to insure me getting more hentai, they aren't making the stuff so giving them money does nothing to insure more hentai will be produced ya know..
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NezuChiza
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I find it amusing how they bring the Japanese companies into it by saying that they aren't "compensated", but that has exactly NO impact on this particular issue in regards to piracy of releases licensed by a US company. After all, the US companies already paid the Japanese companies, sales of the DVD's themselves give NO money back to the Japanese source. So once something is licensed it could be pirated till the cows come home and it wouldn't actually impact what the Japanese were already paid.
Not advocating the piracy, just pointing out that using a defense of "It cuts into the Japanese profits too!" doesn't exactly work. |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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May I ask if you either work in the anime industry or are closely connected in some way? Depending on the contract they signed, overseas licensees might have to pay royalties for copies they sell. I'm sorry that I can't disclose more details as this is considered insider information. Now I'm all ears to stories from your side. |
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ikillchicken
Posts: 7272 Location: Vancouver |
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Thats interesting. I didn't know it worked that way.
Also, though the companies arent directly affected, it could down the road if it causes ANime to be unsuccessful and less stuff is licenced in the future. Perhaps though that may be a streatch from a legal perspective. |
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