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axstoro
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Well, I really don't understand how a licensed anime works. Last night my friend told me there was going to be a second season of Ouran High Host Club, which is currently one of my favorite comedy animes. But just recently, I went on a Ouran Fan site, only to see this message:
"Notice: There is no second anime season. - Why? The Ouran anime has been licensed in the US by Funimation." So my question is, when an anime is licensed by a US Company, does it mean they buy the rights to the whole series globally, or just in the states? And, why would there be no season 2 if it was licensed? |
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marie-antoinette
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There is absolutely no reason why a license would interfere with there being a second season made. The fansite is clearly insane.
Licenses are given by the Japanese producer for a certain area. I do not know this 100%, but I would assume that for companies such as Funimation, Bandai US, and other American companies, they get the rights for the region 1 DVD release and nothing else (aside from possible merchandising rights, if they pay more). But the licensing company does not own the property in any way, thus they would not be able to create or prevent a second season of a title just through their license alone. No Japanese company would allow that. As for Ouran, currently no second season has been announced. It is speculated that there might be one, because the first season's ending would allow it and because there is quite a bit of manga that goes beyond the plot of the anime. |
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axstoro
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rawr.
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Zalis116
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If anything, there's more of a chance of a second season being created if a show gets licensed by a non-Japanese company. Although some things have changed recently, companies like the North American licensees generally pay licensing fees to the Japanese producers for the right to release the show in a given area. So despite what people say in "some places" like "Enjoy your false sense of supporting the artists when you buy R1 crap," buying anime released (legitimately) outside of Japan does support the Japanese industry.
I can't say this with 100% certainty, but it's likely that the existing sequel seasons of series such as Big O, Saiyuki, Girls Bravo, and Gantz were made possible by foreign (as in non-Japanese) funding. Then again, that's not the only factor; some series like Berserk and Fruits Basket that were popular over here have not gotten sequels, despite offers from Media-Blasters and Funimation to coproduce them. (I think.) And then there are franchises like Aria and Da Capo that see multiple seasons without getting a single cent or yen from North America. In short, it's a complicated system, but either way that fan site is way off base. |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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The world is way bigger than you thought, kid. 
Not exactly. Broadcasting rights (VHF/UHF, cable, PPV), home video (i.e. DVD, BD, or any other media format) rights, and merchandising rights can all be separated to different companies. For example, Animax Taiwan had broadcasted Witch Hunter Robin and will broadcast Nodame Cantabile in near future, but neither series has been (or will have plans to be) released in home video format. |
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Top Gun
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You're correct at least in the case of Big O, as its second season was actually co-produced by Cartoon Network in response to favorable ratings for the first season back when it aired on Toonami. |
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Enjeru
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I series can be licensed before, during, or after a show airs in Japan. ADV has been known to license a series before the show hit Japanese televisions. This is done as a way of helping to finance the anime as well as "call first dibs" on it.
The way I understand it, licensing a show entails an up front payment followed by a % of the dvd sales. Also it is important to mention that a show is formally licensed usually long before it is announced to the general public. In regards to your question about OHHC.....what everyone has said is accurate. It has nothing to do with a second season of a show....unless they are waiting to see how dvd sales go. But that is very rare. |
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Dargonxtc
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Which was exciting since that made CN another channel for a production money stream. Which ultimately means more anime, and more broadcast time for said anime. Too bad IGPX was such a flop, as it is likely CN won't be doing anything similar for a long time. 
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ikillchicken
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Licensing is a very complex process you see. For this reason, I have created a handy flow chart to help people understand how it works.
Thats pretty much the anime industry in a nutshell. |
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BreakTheChains
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Really the only terrible thing the american companies do is edit stuff for TV which is understandable but still annoying anyways. Go Internet Woo!
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Patachu
Past ANN Contributor
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Remember folks, the only EVIL thing about licensed anime is when EVIL characters like Gaara perform EVIL ninja moves that American kids try to replicate in their EVIL sandboxes and cause them to die, thus leading misinformed parents to think that Japanese cartoons are EVIL. I'm hoping for an Ouran second season as much as anyone else. 
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ikillchicken
Posts: 7272 Location: Vancouver |
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Aw shoot. I forgot to put sandboxes on there. It should have gone right between "death" and "stupid again".
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HyugaHinata
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Well, maybe they were talking about fansubs. If the first season was licensed, there's less of a reason to fansub the 2nd season as US companies have already shown interest in the show. |
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Randall Miyashiro
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An example for the US would be something like One Piece or Blood+ which I don't believe had a confirmed studio for a video release while the initial broadcast ran. I believe the DVD rights fpr both Kyo Kara Maoh and Black Lagoon 2nd still are tied up with Geneon, but the broadcast rights are open for IATV and Starz. As stated elsewhere different countries have different licensors, so Black Lagoon will still be released by MVM in the UK even if Geneon US is in limbo. For the most part companies who had the rights for the VHS release will retain the rights for the DVD release. This seems to be the case with the UMD and most Blu-ray editions, although BVUSA has released both Yukikaze and Jin-roh on Blu-ray while I believe BE still has the DVD rights for both. I'm not sure if this is a special situation that Bandai Visual has with Bandai Entertainment, since they did wait for the lapse in Manga Entertainment's license for Honneamise before releasing it on Blu-ray. I believe Sony has plans on releasing Bebop movie, Steamboy and Metropolis on Blu-ray in the US. I'm also a little curious about BE getting GITS Innocence for Blu-ray. Did the original license lapse, or is this another special arrangement. |
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abunai
Old Regular
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Lord, give me strength...
All right... where do I begin? First, we have a long-standing policy in these forums of not being 4chan. That means we don't post satirical "flowcharts" purporting to show how things work, but really intended to show how bloody ironic and above it all we are. We don't post image replies -- I like Orson as much as the next film geek, but there has to be some relevance. And most of all, we don't "win the thread". Now, I am tempted to just delete all the extraneous posts, but that won't serve any educational purpose. Instead, I'm going to warn you all to get back on topic, and keep the chan-isms under control. If not, this thread goes on a slow boat to Locksville. Debate doesn't mean "hurhurhur me too lulz", folks. It implies the use of a minimum of sapience. - abunai |
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