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Carol Maxwell



Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:53 am Reply with quote
What makes a REAL newbie anyway? If I recall from what I've heard so far, it's a person who does not know a lot about an anime, or anime in general. Well, if a person who isn't a newbie, does that mean they know everything about anime? I doubt this is true. So, technically, isn't everyone a newbie? I don't, this thought just came to me for one reason or another. Confused Please don't kill me! Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop
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lianncoop
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:45 pm Reply with quote
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=newbie

I have no idea what you mean by "real newbie." People who have been interested in anime longer than others are obviously not new to the genre.
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Legato 2057



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:29 pm Reply with quote
No one know everything about anime. A newbie is simply someone who is new to whatever, be it anime or simply posting on the forum.
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DarkZelgadis



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:56 pm Reply with quote
Newbie is usually used as a derogatory term on the net. (Which is kind of dumb, since everyone is new to something at one point or another anyway.) Of course, the reason it’s a derogatory term is a bit obvious. People who are new tend to do things that upset the ‘regular’ social order of things and also they tend to annoy the ‘regulars’ of whatever. (I’m speaking in net terms here.) Also, they tend to have really bad grammar.... (Which is just a stereotype anyway....) ...and tend to type really annoyingly.

An example of a ‘newbie’, following this definition, would be something like this.

InUyAsHaRuLz4EvA: aNiMi Is So CoOl!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111

I’m not trying to be offensive or anything, I’m just trying to work in the confines of my definition. Besides, there's nothing wrong with being new to something.
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gnollman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:44 pm Reply with quote
Being new to something is no shame...

Being new and offensively stupid, however, is, and is what comprises a 'True Newbie.'



To my mind, at least.
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Nagisa
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:02 pm Reply with quote
gnollman wrote:
Being new to something is no shame...

Being new and offensively stupid, however, is, and is what comprises a 'True Newbie.'



To my mind, at least.


Same here. I've seen some newfound anime fans carry themselves very well (some good friends of mine, who I personally introduced to anime, included), but I've seen many other newfound anime fans just act like complete ADHD-case children ("OMG AMINE SO KEEEEEEEWWWWWWWLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!1111111"). Those morons are the ones I would call "newbies."
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hellsing



Joined: 19 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:04 pm Reply with quote
[quote="Carol Maxwell"]What makes a REAL newbie anyway? If I recall from what I've heard so far, it's a person who does not know a lot about an anime, or anime in general. Well, if a person who isn't a newbie, does that mean they know everything about anime? I doubt this is true. So, technically, isn't everyone a newbie? I don't, this thought just came to me for one reason or another. Confused

your a newbi to anime when your just starting to get into it if youve seen a few episodes of this anime or that anime then your not a newbi but new to the subject. I dont think anyone could ever know everything about anime (although im trying to do that right now) Very Happy and no no one is going to kill you we will just bash your head a few times until your not a newbi anymore

Just kidding Laughing (lol).
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frostedsaiyan



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:03 pm Reply with quote
I've been into anime for about 6 years now. I don't consider myself a newbie. I think a newbie is a person just introduced to something.
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space clam



Joined: 11 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:22 pm Reply with quote
Here's how I see it:

Good newbie- new into something (anime) Joins a forum with intent to learn, contribute positively and intelligently, not SPAM, and is fairly regular in posting.

Bad newbie- new into something (anime) May exhibit early symptoms of elitism due to flaunting of useless facts/figures. May have ADD/ADHD, as characterized by overzealous posts and poor grammar/punctuation/spelling. Jumps from forum to forum just to SPAM, gets about 3 posts before being banned and going elsewhere. Often uses infantile humor only they themselves find funny.

Too bad the bad stand out more than the good...
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Swordfish_II



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:26 pm Reply with quote
space clam wrote:
Bad newbie- new into something (anime) May exhibit early symptoms of elitism due to flaunting of useless facts/figures. May have ADD/ADHD, as characterized by overzealous posts and poor grammar/punctuation/spelling. Jumps from forum to forum just to SPAM, gets about 3 posts before being banned and going elsewhere. Often uses infantile humor only they themselves find funny.


See also: The Adult Swim.com message boards.
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ShellBullet



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:19 pm Reply with quote
When you start out doing something new you're a newbie. You get incessantly mocked and looked down upon by elitist non-newbies until sufficient time passes and/or new newbies join the group. Then you you can mock and look down on the new newbies. That's a universal phenomenon, not confined to just anime. Confused
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Carol Maxwell



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:22 am Reply with quote
Oh! So they're like freshman in high school! Surprised I get it! Laughing
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space clam



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:20 pm Reply with quote
Why can't we all be happy and share like good little Communists, and hug trees, and be kind to our newbies, and... Oh wait. It DOESN'T work like that. And it IS like high school, where sophomores kick freshmen ass, and juniors kick sophomore ass, and so on so forth. But the good newbies deserve some credit. Being accpeted is hard enough in and of itself, the difficulty is only compounded when you run into elitists and others who dislike newbies of anything in general. So, to all good newbies: stay good, and just say no to spam.
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Animum



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:33 pm Reply with quote
Well, and my related question is: When do you STOP being a newbie?

How many series do you have to watch before you "graduate"? do you have to have seen all of the "classics" and also be familiar with everything that's wildly popular as well?

It's been a year for me, and I find that when I try to qualify my statements of opinion to avoid sounding like a pompous ass -- since I'm well aware that my relative newness could result in an ignorant post -- I often get jumped on.

I'm not talking about an opinion/fact restricted to the shows I've seen and liked, I'm talking here about asking wider questions and expressing wider opinions.

Any thoughts?
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ChichiriMuyo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:04 pm Reply with quote
I wouldn't call you a "total n00b" if you've been into anime for a year, however if you are dealing with people who have been deeply into the genre five or ten years it will be difficult to make a solid point or ask a lot of questions that might not seem too common to them... though I feel most elitists fall short of the five to ten year range so chances are anyone who is jumping on you about anything only has a couple more years of experience than you anyway. Best advice is to ignore such people.

There is sadly no set number for any sort of "Graduation", just keep watching until you feel confident about what you know.
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