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L'Imperatore
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:41 am
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Still in the middle rewatching UC to (hopefully) better grasp the references.
Anyway, couldn't believe Hololive's Suisei performs the ending theme for a Gundam show of all things.
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Glordit
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:44 am
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Strange that they made episode 2 the backstory episode and not episode 1. I assume it was done to not confuse people, making them think it was just a reboot of the original.
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Wizardizar
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:49 am
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Hi, new Gundam fan here (even bought like 8 gunplas from G-Witch last summer). The second episode didn't alienate me per se, but it did sometime feel like watching a movie through clips on a youtube short, especially the last 5 minutes. I will say, it did make me want to go and watch the 3 movies that cover the original series to get more context, but I can see how people wouldn't want to invest that time to get the extra context.
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tintor2
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:17 am
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These two episodes feel so weird. I'd say the first one felt more like something Khara would make especially with the way the Gundams are animated but it's a shame Machu's identity was barely explored. She is kinda a mystery.
The second episode kinda made me laugh as Char continues having homoerotic tension with fellow characters since Garma, Amuro and now it's Challia. It almost felt like the Sonic movies when watching the opening. On the other hand, Amuro has had several romantic interests but none had a positive resolution due to Sunrise' issues with Counterattack in regards to having a family man as a lead which led to Beltorchika's Children.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:21 am
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I get what they’re going for, although I’m actually kind of wondering if they should have done the Char ep so soon. It feels like two different stories from two different writers because well, it is, and it creates a disconnect for Machu and her friends. They’re picking up the pieces of technology and a history none of them are privy to the details of.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:25 am
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Glordit wrote: | Strange that they made episode 2 the backstory episode and not episode 1. I assume it was done to not confuse people, making them think it was just a reboot of the original. |
'Tanya the Evil' anime did the same thing. Action packed first episode and second episode was the back story.
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pi8you
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:32 am
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I went into The Beginning film last month without having watched any UC Gundam before (just Mercury, IBO, and the better part of Wing way back in the Toonami days) and still had a great time with the 'origin' section, enough so that I've gone through both 0079 (series) and Zeta since then, and have just started ZZ. I don't think that sort of 'homework' is gonna be necessary for anyone, as they spelled out most of what we need to know, but even getting the compilation films under your belt will add some good contextual flavor. Having said that, consider me a convert recommending going back anyways, the old shows are proving that they're classics for a reason, and I've been having a great time with them.
The alt-0079 section probably should have been a standalone episode 0, but barring that option I'd agree that shifting it to the second episode for broadcast was the right call, and I suspect that the cut content is going to come back into play at a relevant point later (but it was definitely jarring when they didn't kick off with it last week). For any true neophytes watching, just go with the flow and enjoy the little (alt-)history lesson, Machu and company are coming right back next week to bring you more of what you liked in the first episode.
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The Scream Man
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:06 am
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Missed the film so Im going in cold week to week. I have seen the OG Gundam only in the compilation movies, and stuff like Gundam: Origin.
So far I like it ok, but Im not blown away. I didn't love Ep2 being a long Flashback, and it didn't answer a question I had, or if it did I missed it.
Ok, So Char got the Gundam... but where was Amuro? I was waiting for something to happen that allowed Char to get there first, some twist of fate but... nothing. So are the OG Federation characters just... chilling one Side 6? Did the whole Federation cast of Gundam just get the day off, and thats how Char and the lads got the Gundam?
I dunno it just set me on the wrong foot. If u do an alternate timeline, you have to show what twisted it; X-Mens Age of Apocalypse storyline had Charles Xavier killed before he could found the X-Men, which changed history. You need something like that IMO.
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The_Outsider
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:12 am
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Gonna echo what I said in the discussion thread, episode 2 felt like pure nostalgia-bait fanservice, from a writing standpoint, with all the cameos and namedropping they did, and the unending amounts of exposition really doesn't help things.
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Andrew Cunningham
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:24 am
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As a Tsurumaki fan but not a Gundam fan (tried most of them, never finished) I had one foot out the door on the first episode already; I liked the girls, but the rest bored me, and it felt like Tsurumaki's style was getting buried under Gundam's.
The second episode just killed my interest in the series permanently. If it had been an episode zero, maybe that would have worked, but not featuring the main character in a second episode sounded like a baffling decision going in, and in practice even worse; it just made no sense at all without having seen the previous series. Brought back memories of that time someone brought Char's Counterattack to the anime club (in like 1999) when none of us had seen any Gundam. It did not play well.
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Glordit
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:14 pm
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The Scream Man wrote: | Missed the film so Im going in cold week to week. I have seen the OG Gundam only in the compilation movies, and stuff like Gundam: Origin.
So far I like it ok, but Im not blown away. I didn't love Ep2 being a long Flashback, and it didn't answer a question I had, or if it did I missed it.
Ok, So Char got the Gundam... but where was Amuro? I was waiting for something to happen that allowed Char to get there first, some twist of fate but... nothing. So are the OG Federation characters just... chilling one Side 6? Did the whole Federation cast of Gundam just get the day off, and thats how Char and the lads got the Gundam?
I dunno it just set me on the wrong foot. If u do an alternate timeline, you have to show what twisted it; X-Mens Age of Apocalypse storyline had Charles Xavier killed before he could found the X-Men, which changed history. You need something like that IMO. |
I don't think Side 7 was destroyed (from what I could see) so Amuro is technically alive, that's if he is even in this iteration of the series.
Would be funny if Amuro is actually Char
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WhoDatPokemon
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:27 pm
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Is this show meant to be for "new fans"?, even judging by the first episode alone I really don't think so.
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Maleko Ai
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:13 pm
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WhoDatPokemon wrote: | Is this show meant to be for "new fans"?, even judging by the first episode alone I really don't think so. |
Yeah is not. Even though I've already seen some Gundams the first episode I found it tedious. And it seems that if you haven't seen the firsts Gundams you won't understand the references in the second episode.
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Covnam
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:30 pm
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So I guess the civilians not being present is the biggest change in this timeline (amongst other smaller things I'm sure I didn't notice) that leads to the alternate history. Interesting that it seemed like the Federation was still winning the war for the most part until the psycommu system and bits came in to play. I wonder if that means that if the gundam had just been destroyed then the Federation would have ended up winning anyway with or without Amuro...
I saw a comparison between the original and new character designs and found it pretty funny that only Bull got a glow up
I don't really care for the changes to the design of the Gundam (RX-78). It seems like they added a lot of flourishes to it (and most of the other Federation suits, though I didn't notice anything really changing with the Zakus), but the main change I dislike is the head. Whether intentional or not, it looks more... evil I guess. Like this is the "dark" Gundam.
With one intro episode and one flash back, it's really too early to tell how this series is going to go. I'll probably keep watching since it's Gundam though unless it turns out really terrible
Beatdigga wrote: | I get what they’re going for, although I’m actually kind of wondering if they should have done the Char ep so soon. It feels like two different stories from two different writers because well, it is, and it creates a disconnect for Machu and her friends. They’re picking up the pieces of technology and a history none of them are privy to the details of. |
Yeah, I think another episode with the (I presume) main cast would have been a better choice. Though perhaps it's relevant to the third episode and they couldn't hold it back.
I do think not starting with the flashback was a better choice though, at least based on the two episodes we have so far. Of course, they could have just gone with a double or triple episode premier to take care of that issue.
The Scream Man wrote: |
So far I like it ok, but Im not blown away. I didn't love Ep2 being a long Flashback, and it didn't answer a question I had, or if it did I missed it.
Ok, So Char got the Gundam... but where was Amuro? I was waiting for something to happen that allowed Char to get there first, some twist of fate but... nothing. So are the OG Federation characters just... chilling one Side 6? Did the whole Federation cast of Gundam just get the day off, and thats how Char and the lads got the Gundam? |
There was a blink an you'll miss it comment about the civilians being evacuated as they notice how quiet the colony activity is.
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The Scream Man
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:42 pm
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The Scream Man wrote: |
So far I like it ok, but Im not blown away. I didn't love Ep2 being a long Flashback, and it didn't answer a question I had, or if it did I missed it.
Ok, So Char got the Gundam... but where was Amuro? I was waiting for something to happen that allowed Char to get there first, some twist of fate but... nothing. So are the OG Federation characters just... chilling one Side 6? Did the whole Federation cast of Gundam just get the day off, and thats how Char and the lads got the Gundam? |
There was a blink an you'll miss it comment about the civilians being evacuated as they notice how quiet the colony activity is.[/quote]
i did indeed miss that! Ok, so I guess thats what changes!
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