Forum - View topicNEWS: NTV Reveals Results of Investigation Into Sexy Tanaka-san Live-Action Series After Hinako Ashi
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samuelp
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In other words ntv blames shogakukan and vica versa.
Well Japan it's time you started putting things in writing, in contracts, for things like this instead of doing everything by the literal honor system. |
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malvarez1
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This whole situation is super unfortunate, and feels like it could’ve been easily avoided.
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blooperboy
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I have a feeling that this is going to get cited when Oshi no ko's second season starts airing. It's sad, but I also can't help but think people are going to say that the next season will be 'profiting off this latest tragedy' while ignoring that the series was written long before that.
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turnsie
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It's giving "We've investigated ourselves and cleared ourselves of any wrongdoing".
I feel like I have to be misunderstanding something here: if NTV was completely unaware of the three conditions proposed by Shogakukan, how did Hinako Ashihara end up writing the scripts for the last two episodes anyway? |
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WANNFH
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1) Ashihara said that she passed the condition to the production team by Shogakukan, and she checked if they agree on her conditions MULTIPLE times before the production 2) She had the initial script before the production started, while also she left the notes for production team for the last two episodes 3) After looking up at the script and finding out that it's completely deviates from the manga despite the agreement, she sended complaints through the Shogakukan for nearly entire month, with no avail 4) The involvement to the complete writing of the script for the last two episodes was literally started because despite it was nearly the deadlines, she used up the part of the production contract where Ashihara could, as necessary, write the parts of the scripts for live-action herself. Yes, the third condition was literally written part of agreements before the production, so NTV supposed to knew at least that for sure. The question is - who is in the middle between production team at NTV and Shogakukan actually screwed up to the point that it ended up tragically? |
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samuelp
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From my experience in the industry it's likely some overworked middle-level producers/editorial assistant staff, who avoid giving more information to each other than "necessary" and likely didn't report any issues up to their managers honestly. They buried their heads in the sand hoping to get through what was probably a cursed project for many reasons "rocking the boat" as little as possible because that's the kind of work culture that's encouraged. And this is what resulted. |
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MFrontier
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I can't say it feels like this really clarifies or fixes anything, I can only hope that in the future there is better communication or respect to the creator so a tragedy like this never happens again.
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Waalex11
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There's no excuse to their behavior and shortcomings or whatever else they've done.
They don't deserve to finish it. They shouldn't. They failed to be faithful from the start. RIP. Sucks. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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So NTV investigated themselves and found NTV was totally innocent. Sure Jan.
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Hellsoldier
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This would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.
Oshi no Ko was mentioned here, and I have to mention that adaptations with complete disregard for the author's wishes is something that has been covered in the first season. |
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nargun
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It's the same writing style as transport accident reports or inquest findings: there's a skill to reading them. They're written with a low-affect/emotional intensity style and are limited to what can be *proven*, so: + You need to read the words, not the vibe (because there is no vibe) + You need to read the words carefully, because there'll be gaps of 99% "almost certainly" deductions that won't be paved over. + Special trick: where they use words like "inadequate" that's probably where the fuckup was identified. Anyway, just by the extracts this seems to be pointing to a specific person on the Shogakukan side who didn't convey to the production team what the manga-artist told them too, and then lied about it, because they didn't respect the right of the artist to have preferences about the adaption of their work. They aren't named or identified, but everyone involved knows who they are, so. And the TV executive statements are "we trusted that shogakukan wouldn't just lie about what their artist wants but we can't do that any more". |
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CountZeroOR
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Yeah, this is reminding me a lot of that one guy from Shirobako (the "Funny Story" guy) in the second half of the series who was supposed to be the publisher liaison to the production - only here things ended in tragedy, |
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Rob19ny
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Why am I not surprised that this would be the result. smh
Of course now they recommend after Ashihara has passed. It should have been a requirement since the 1st adaptation ever made in existence. But we know creators aren't respected, which is why it didn't happen to begin with. These creators work so hard and to see their work altered in an adaptation gotta hurt. I know a few who were upset at changes. I know a few who just didn't care. The creators vision should always be respected first. You should have to figure that out after a person dies. |
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Multi-Facets
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Author Gail Carriger has made social media posts before explaining why more books aren't being made into movies, and the biggest issue is authors often sign away the majority of anything they can do, leaving their work in the hands of people who aren't writers. Writers are not often consulted on their own works because authors usually aren't script writers, directors, producers, and so on and so on.
Yet when a written work lands in the hands of directors, script writers, producers, et al, they don't tend to be fans of it. They may not have even bothered to read it beforehand. This, among many other factors, obviously creates a disconnect between the original and the adaptation. And if the writer insists on being involved, sometimes you get clusterf--ks like the "Twilight" movies. This isn't always the case, of course; sometimes we get great stuff when the authors can be involved, and good things when they can't be. But this is the first time I've heard of a production being so mishandled that the original author got so overwhelmed, they felt suicide was the only answer. Once was enough. I hope I never hear this kind of news again. It should never have happened, and I can only hope Ashihara-sensei finds what she was looking for on the other side, since she couldn't find it here no matter how hard she tried to defend her work. I also hope that with time, her friends, family, and fans will be okay. |
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StephanieKing
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It’s frustrating to see the blame game between NTV and Shogakukan over the Sexy Tanaka-san live-action series. Japan should definitely move towards formal contracts for such matters instead of relying solely on the honour system. It could prevent issues like this. I had a tight deadline for my lab report and was feeling stressed. That’s when I found https://academized.com/write-my-lab-report Their service was a lifesaver. The writer was knowledgeable and delivered a high-quality lab report well before the deadline. The support team was also very supportive and responsive. I highly recommend their service to anyone in need of help with lab reports. |
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