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whiskeyii
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:26 pm
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It’s really frustrating to hear about the shrink wrap. Maybe if I’m being extremely generous, there’s later content to warrant that, but the last series I can remember being shrink wrapped was Lady Snowblood and Red River, and those were both back in the early 00’s.
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njprogfan
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:29 pm
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whiskeyii wrote: | It’s really frustrating to hear about the shrink wrap. Maybe if I’m being extremely generous, there’s later content to warrant that, but the last series I can remember being shrink wrapped was Lady Snowblood and Red River, and those were both back in the early 00’s. |
Actually, there's a very high number of shrink-wrapped manga these days.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:04 pm
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njprogfan wrote: |
Actually, there's a very high number of shrink-wrapped manga these days. |
Well now I just feel old.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:25 pm
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Japan didn't even approve the birth control pill until 1999 - 4 decades after it was developed. So they don't talk about it much:
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Sixty years have passed, entering the 21st century, large gaps in access remain, driven by politics, poverty, or cultural concerns. For instance, Japan, one of the largest and most developed economies in the world. It surprised me that the first birth control pill was introduced to Japanese 40 years after it became a daily routine for most western women. In fact, Japan was the only U.N. member to not approve oral contraceptives to be an over-the-counter medicine while other countries did, and this delay has had a knock-on effect on the pill’s popularity to this day. And since the pill in Japan remain to be a prescription medicine, it can’t be advertised openly, which is why isn’t hard to imagine Japanese people’s understanding of pill remains low.
Only recently, the national diet had heated debates over whether the pill should remain restricted in Japan by prescription. For now, access to oral contraceptives in Japan requires a doctor’s prescription and the average cost is around 2-3000 yen per pill, which is an unacceptable price for many. However, we could expect to see some changes taken place pretty soon, perhaps as fast as next year. According to the Asahi Shimbun, many Japanese are urging their government to ease rule on the sale of birth control pills, give people the right to buy the pill without any doctor’s prescription. The Suga cabinet is leaning towards making this possible and had actually put the contraceptive bill forward. If this act does pass the legislative process, would be considered a great leap forward and bring Japan in line with other 100 plus developed countries.
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CatSword
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:42 pm
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whiskeyii wrote: | It’s really frustrating to hear about the shrink wrap. Maybe if I’m being extremely generous, there’s later content to warrant that, but the last series I can remember being shrink wrapped was Lady Snowblood and Red River, and those were both back in the early 00’s. |
M-rated manga are normally shrink-wrapped in bookstores, short of something like a small publisher handwaving it or human error keeping it off a shipment. Manga rated "Older Teen" (as I believe Red River was) also inconsistently can get the shrinkwrap, usually based on the presence of female nipples.
I went to Books-a-Million when I was about 13 and Gangsta. was unwrapped, which seemed like my perfect opportunity to grab it, but for some reason I had this paranoia in the back of my head they were gonna ask for my ID or something. Chances are whoever is working the counter as Books-a-Million does not care what a random manga is rated, and might not even have a system for age verification at all since they sell nothing "harmful to minors" (see: pornography).
So I'd like to think it's pretty easy for a teenager to get this book. The real issue is with exposure through outlets like libraries, though I know of at least three libraries in our local consortium that have bought M-rated manga for their teen collections and had no backlash I know of.
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TsukasaElkKite
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:57 pm
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enurtsol wrote: | Japan didn't even approve the birth control pill until 1999 - 4 decades after it was developed. So they don't talk about it much:
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Sixty years have passed, entering the 21st century, large gaps in access remain, driven by politics, poverty, or cultural concerns. For instance, Japan, one of the largest and most developed economies in the world. It surprised me that the first birth control pill was introduced to Japanese 40 years after it became a daily routine for most western women. In fact, Japan was the only U.N. member to not approve oral contraceptives to be an over-the-counter medicine while other countries did, and this delay has had a knock-on effect on the pill’s popularity to this day. And since the pill in Japan remain to be a prescription medicine, it can’t be advertised openly, which is why isn’t hard to imagine Japanese people’s understanding of pill remains low.
Only recently, the national diet had heated debates over whether the pill should remain restricted in Japan by prescription. For now, access to oral contraceptives in Japan requires a doctor’s prescription and the average cost is around 2-3000 yen per pill, which is an unacceptable price for many. However, we could expect to see some changes taken place pretty soon, perhaps as fast as next year. According to the Asahi Shimbun, many Japanese are urging their government to ease rule on the sale of birth control pills, give people the right to buy the pill without any doctor’s prescription. The Suga cabinet is leaning towards making this possible and had actually put the contraceptive bill forward. If this act does pass the legislative process, would be considered a great leap forward and bring Japan in line with other 100 plus developed countries.
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WOW! I never knew that!
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enurtsol
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:59 am
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TsukasaElkKite wrote: |
WOW! I never knew that! |
It's also the same with the morning-after pill, which requires a visit to the doctor for prescription first - which kinda defeats the purpose
It's like they don't trust the women to have the relevant knowledge by themselves, without a visit to the doctor
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:57 am
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enurtsol wrote: |
It's also the same with the morning-after pill, which requires a visit to the doctor for prescription first - which kinda defeats the purpose
It's like they don't trust the women to have the relevant knowledge by themselves, without a visit to the doctor |
Now that just feels invasive.
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kotomikun
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:31 pm
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The shrink wrap, warning labels, etc. show the basic problem with sex ed in the US: no one's allowed to do it, because anything related to sex or nudity is adults-only. I can't recall even having it in school, besides a middle-school biology class that briefly warned us about STDs and, for some reason, made us watch a video of a baby being born. The same teacher scolded somebody for having a pinup photo on his binder. As useful as a manga like this might be for education, it's hard to imagine a teacher getting away with using it, even if they wanted to.
Of course, the existence of this manga shows Japan has similar problems. A reminder that most of the anime/manga industry is a counterculture, especially in its own country.
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Allison Addams
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:09 pm
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enurtsol wrote: |
TsukasaElkKite wrote: |
WOW! I never knew that! |
It's like they don't trust the women to have the relevant knowledge by themselves, without a visit to the doctor |
What else is new?
And even if you get to see the doctor, you could still potentially get sent off without proper treatment. Because you just gotta lose some weight or something.
Smh
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