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Kicksville
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:30 am
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Great news. About the only bummer is how it seems to be Steam only (I would've liked to have it on Switch), but I'll definitely support the local release.
This is just the latest of "things to happen with Super Robot Wars everyone said was impossible", but it's quite a significant landmark.
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TranceLimit174
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:57 am
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Kicksville wrote: | Great news. About the only bummer is how it seems to be Steam only (I would've liked to have it on Switch), but I'll definitely support the local release.
This is just the latest of "things to happen with Super Robot Wars everyone said was impossible", but it's quite a significant landmark. |
100%. I want this for my Switch, but I'll buy a Steam copy just to show stateside support because like you said, as a long-time fan this state of affairs is unbelievable.
Also, it's interesting that story-wise the game is gonna completely skip GaoGaiGar FINAL and go straight to GaoGaiGar VS Betterman. Translation: you're not getting Genesic GaoGaiGar until the final few stages, but it will be a Grand Glorious Gathering when he finally shows up.
Lastly, as a legacy thing, pretty badass to see Mazinkaiser get an Infinity glow-up.
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John the Dark Lord
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:16 pm
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Kicksville wrote: | This is just the latest of "things to happen with Super Robot Wars everyone said was impossible", but it's quite a significant landmark. |
Here's hoping the next one is having Lyrical Nanoha in a SRW game. And maybe Transformers too.
Either way, these last few days have been an awesome time to be a SRW fan.
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chao8971
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:36 pm
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[quote="TranceLimit174"]
Kicksville wrote: | Great news. About the only bummer is how it
Lastly, as a legacy thing, pretty badass to see Mazinkaiser get an Infinity glow-up. |
I believe the Mazinkaiser Infinity look is actually from a model kit first, and then they transferred that design to this. Happy to see this here regardless, always happy as hell to see more Mazinkaiser.
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Rogueywon
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:02 pm
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I've seen some suggestions that the choice of franchises for this one keeps the circle of licence-holders pretty tight. Possibly that makes the international release easier?
Put this alongside the discontinuation of Sega's Judgement series, apparently because some licence holders wouldn't allow a PC release, and it looks like there's a bit of an IP push-and-pull underway between Japan's games industry and its other creative industries.
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GNPixie
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:50 pm
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Rogueywon wrote: | I've seen some suggestions that the choice of franchises for this one keeps the circle of licence-holders pretty tight. Possibly that makes the international release easier?
Put this alongside the discontinuation of Sega's Judgement series, apparently because some licence holders wouldn't allow a PC release, and it looks like there's a bit of an IP push-and-pull underway between Japan's games industry and its other creative industries. |
Well, one of those is dealing with Johnny's who are notorious and infamous for things like that. See everything involving reappearances of Ultraman Tiga and all that.
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TranceLimit174
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:36 pm
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GNPixie wrote: |
Rogueywon wrote: | I've seen some suggestions that the choice of franchises for this one keeps the circle of licence-holders pretty tight. Possibly that makes the international release easier?
Put this alongside the discontinuation of Sega's Judgement series, apparently because some licence holders wouldn't allow a PC release, and it looks like there's a bit of an IP push-and-pull underway between Japan's games industry and its other creative industries. |
Well, one of those is dealing with Johnny's who are notorious and infamous for things like that. See everything involving reappearances of Ultraman Tiga and all that. |
These two situations are completely different:
As far as SRW, it's not that the license holder circle is tight so much as U.S. license holders no longer exist (ADV, Media Blasters, etc.). The big issue was always that license holders would want their piece of the SRW pie for series appearances, but since SRW would be a very niche game that wouldn't come close to covering what ADV would want for Evangelion. And that's not even accounting for VA costs to dub the animations.
As for Judgement, the main actor's talent agency Johnny & Associates has a major issue with the games being on PC because they are concerned about people modding and using the actor's likeness for personal purposes (that they would not get money from). Unfortunately for Sega, most Yakuza fans play on PC so it screws the potential for future games. On that same note, there's no problem with Ultraman Tiga showing up anywhere, it's getting Daigo Madoka (Hiroshi Nagano).
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MFrontier
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:31 pm
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...Okay, I'm totally playing this.
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F302 Pilot
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:47 pm
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nice to see SRW 30 getting a release,i wish Bandai Namco would release other SRW games from the 5th and 6th generation consoles
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NJ_
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:18 pm
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TranceLimit174 wrote: | As far as SRW, it's not that the license holder circle is tight so much as U.S. license holders no longer exist (ADV, Media Blasters, etc.)... |
Actually Media Blasters still does exist, they have been re-licensing their some of their old DVD titles for new Blu-ray releases and also releasing pressed DVDs again after discontinuing their old DVD-Rs a few months back.
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MoonPhase1
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:33 pm
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Yeah not too interested in playing this on Steam. I think it would play better on PS4. Of course with these games, it is usually the Hey at least it is being localized at all since most of these games do not.
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levonr
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:37 pm
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MoonPhase1 wrote: | Yeah not too interested in playing this on Steam. I think it would play better on PS4. Of course with these games, it is usually the Hey at least it is being localized at all since most of these games do not. |
How would it play better on Steam than PS4? It should play exactly the the same unless someone is using a very old weak PC. Adding the custom music is probably slightly easier on PC.
I'm sticking with PS4 however since I like physical releases. I still think its great its coming to Steam in the West, never thought it would happen.
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Fluwm
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:42 pm
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TranceLimit174 wrote: | Unfortunately for Sega, most Yakuza fans play on PC so it screws the potential for future games. |
Why on Earth would you think that? The Yakuza games have always been on PlayStation consoles, and most are t even available on Steam in the first place.
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LuckyAstei
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:41 pm
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Fluwm wrote: |
TranceLimit174 wrote: | Unfortunately for Sega, most Yakuza fans play on PC so it screws the potential for future games. |
Why on Earth would you think that? The Yakuza games have always been on PlayStation consoles, and most are t even available on Steam in the first place. |
as of a few months ago Judgment is the only game in the franchise not on Steam with the remastered collection joining, 0, Kiwami, Kiwami 2, 6 and Like a Dragon
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Kicksville
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:04 am
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TranceLimit174 wrote: | As far as SRW, it's not that the license holder circle is tight so much as U.S. license holders no longer exist (ADV, Media Blasters, etc.). The big issue was always that license holders would want their piece of the SRW pie for series appearances, but since SRW would be a very niche game that wouldn't come close to covering what ADV would want for Evangelion. And that's not even accounting for VA costs to dub the animations. |
This rumor's been kicking around since like 2001 with nothing to back it up beyond sounding vaguely plausible.
To be honest, "it's because too many licenses or whatever" is kind of a likely-sounding assumption as it is - I don't doubt that's part of it, but I would think the "is this worth the effort to release" is just as big, if not a bigger factor, and the answer to that has long been "no". Or maybe the licenses people think are a problem aren't the ones they're thinking of (if Bandai didn't want to release SRW before but Atlus did, why would they let them have a game with Gundam in it, for instance).
I kind of hope this puts an end to all the years of rumors and assumptions, but to be honest I'm guessing people are going to think "X show isn't in SRW anymore because international" right up until the moment it's back in.
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