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olgita
Joined: 09 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:15 pm
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I swear this drama around VTubers is getting ridiculous...
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Zerreth
Joined: 16 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:09 pm
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Not particularly here, but I've discussed about how these agencies are pretty much treating and manufacturing vtubers in the same way as they treat their idol culture, which is why I can't support them.
The exceptions to the rule are those who self employ and simply use vtubers as a means to add a layer of confidentiality to their persona, or work outside of the agency model (i.e. GYARI's VOMs) and the differences in their operations and their streams are incredibly noticeable. It was only a matter of time before we're back to the usual toxic culture we see revolving around Japanese idols because those businesses refuse to behave differently.
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Niyari
Joined: 02 Apr 2011
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:19 pm
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Roa's dialect is part of her character. Meiro's is natural. Management took Roa's side because she has seniority. Pretty much end of story.
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Megiddo
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:19 pm
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Sounds more like the leaking info and twice requesting to retire only to change her mind had more to do with it than the overlapping vocal tic.
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings
Joined: 04 Jul 2013
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:22 pm
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Yeah, like, I'll definitely take her side on the issue of the verbal tic because that sounds silly, but the other stuff is for sure her own fault.
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JonDoe
Joined: 14 Oct 2019
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:24 am
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This all sounds like bad decision making on Meiro's part. Asking for your release twice only to change your mind both times makes you look real flaky, plus she wasn't doing herself any favors by leaking info without permission like that. I can see why her agency got sick of dealing with her.
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Calsolum
Joined: 11 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:28 pm
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I feel bad for Meiro since this all started with a speaking quirk brought on from nervousness and was a natural part of her speech... but if the information presented here about how she behaved up to this point it's really hard to side with her.
I still feel bad for her but I think the company has the right idea to terminate her because of how complicated she made the situation, wanting to quit, changing her mind and leaking info.
It could be that the situation is more complicated and there might have been more factors involved but with the information available, she brought this upon herself.
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Uokel
Joined: 28 Jul 2013
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:14 pm
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There is still a lot of dirty info on this. Like those screen shots of Roa's Dm's having the tags edited with them. Or that the person who posted this on their blog almost word for word stated what Nijsanji was going to do. What the worst thing about this is that Meiro can't even defender herself. From what I recall her saying that she did a stream with permission asking if she could tell her viewers why she was on a break and what was going on with her (obviously without saying names) they said yes. She does the stream and they turn around and go we couldn't say you could do that! and listed it as a breach in contract,
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