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DuskyPredator
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O Maidens in Your Savage Season (TV) Genres: Slice of Life Plot Summary:
Episode 1 At least I think that it was episode one, it was only 18 minutes long so I am not sure if perhaps it was perhaps a preview that was missing about 6 minutes. Presumably where she accidentally spoiler[sees her childhood friend masturbating]. I liked the first episode, setting this as what seems like a look at sexuality from a standard teenage girl perspective. I liked the animation style that reminds me of several series that can play up the bright and cute designs (is the term high bloom?), an example being "A Place Further Than the Universe. Certainly looking forward to more. Last edited by DuskyPredator on Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:48 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Animegomaniac
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Episode 0/1
I really do feel cheated. If you're going to do an bonus early episode, don't just take the first episode and remove the last five minutes. Episode 0. I really liked the emotional flow each of the girls had with their potential and probable... and very literal... mate. It offered some surprise reactions to very primal questions and thoughts.... as well as one out of place erotic reading. Episode 1 And then all that surprise turns to predictability as what you expected is precisely what you get right down to the initial reaction... until the show manages a new spin on the "train entering tunnel represents sex" metaphor. In fact, it manages several new spins, one visual pun and one shocked realization followed by a contemplative one. Fantastic. This series seems to promise a lot visual style and since it doesn't even need it with that premise, I don't know if it's going to be wasted on a small audience or if it will attract people based on word of mouth. In short, I am impressed. |
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DuskyPredator
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Just saw the full first episode, and it did not disappoint.
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 3
This guy needs to stop getting all of his dirty secrets shown to his neighbour childhood friend. Also, she said that the BD was a nice one because it involved traffic, but I don't think she fully understands what it was. Also, is it weird that I happened to think of the same source of the name "Milo", as apparently what it was? Although, my nationality might have helped with that. |
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Animegomaniac
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Episode 3
I think Kasuza was implying that the type of porn he was watching was specifically tied to buses as its right in the title rather than the more typical subway... I mean the driver's right there so it's very very specific fetish of a specific fetish and I'm agreeing with her that he picked it because of the setting. The guy choose the work by the title out of his childish sense of wonderment and then promptly stuck it into a very "famous" kids movie case. That's a metaphor so not subtle that I don't think it even counts as a metaphor anymore. And hs, the cat bus. There's at least nine levels of weird here. Watching porn was the normal part but we've left that starting incident far beyond us now and we're approaching Freud territory. Also, there's the language arts teacher hooking up with someone for sex who turned out to be a student at his school.... then that student blackmails him into becoming their advisor. ... did she forget about her first goal or will she be propping him up by using the potential blackmail by making it into an actual event? |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 4
Does feel like this is going to be one of those hidden gems of the season, being under watched. Momoko has been a little background in what is going on with her, but got invited to karaoke and got contact information for a boy that likely likes her and wants to get to know her more without, without being too pushy. But, I kind of feel like her journey was forecast to go a little differently, in that I think it is likely she is actually into girls. Is saying 'lesbian' too hard a word to say? Clearly she is going to have to figure things out like the rest of them, but it did feel like there was some emphasis about how she has feelings for a relationship with the cool beauty of Sugawara, being referred to as a friend, that goes with how she seems to be confused with what she should feel for some guy. Especially how she was calling Sugawara pretty. So Momo probably does not realize yet that she is gay. Sonezaki has had development on her side, from feeling attacked over her looks by being attacked, hating back against the "pretty" girls, but then changing her looks because clearly she wants positive attention, and kind of equally shocked over the positive reception. She learned to hate that side of things she considered shallow, but started to have desires that she still wants to maybe feel that way, and yet put off in whether she had to change herself for it, and only getting good attention because she is giving in. Kind of hope she will soften up a bit and not be so harsh to such people she considers shallow. Of course one of the girls being "why were you trying to be friends with her" and showing that she may have had ulterior motives for eating with Sonezaki, is not really pure. But Sonezaki has herself been acting a little harsh, like she looks down on others and sees herself as better, that you can see why people might be harsh back, compounding with the fact she has big insecurities. Hopefully she might find herself being able to make peace with the girls that dress more loosely (is that the right word), and take back opinions she has had in pretty much calling them..... not very nice things. Hitoha has maybe become more informed on feelings of arousal, after straddling her teacher out of frustration. Maybe some of what he said about disliking high school girls was a bit harsh, but thinking otherwise would probably more troubling, and hope that he stays on the straight arrow rather than getting up to nonsense with his student. She is in an odd crossroad where she really wants to understand sexuality so that she can improve her writing and such, but certain things are still too early and could be criminal. Kazusa is still fretting over Izumi saying that he has not thought about her sexually unsure if she should be upset, or what she wants. It seems pretty clear that he has, and just said that because he doesn't want to come across as a pervert and or rejected from her turning him down as a just a friend. And yet she has spotted Sugawara talking to each other while seemingly both being happy. Another love rival? |
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Animegomaniac
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Episode 4 - when everything hits everything else.
Momoko " I've never fallen in love with a boy before." Now that's a loaded statement. The problem with declaring Momoko outright gay is that she herself doesn't think it's 100%. Momoko is aware of it, which is why her response was worded so carefully. Bisexual though, that's a different story I think... right now, it's a complicated mess as she seems to be just reacting to those who show interest in her while the girl... or rather, girls... she shows interest in is straight. I hope it'll work itself out better than Toradora where Minori declared herself to be undeclarable somehow. Considering Kazusa's reaction on the slide, she was Momoko's first crush and Kazusa's aware of her position... so there won't be a Tamako Market love triangle where the third leg was always completely cut off. Hitoha. She's living her own written reaction if the visual symbolism still holds true. "She's tingling so does that mean..." Cut to huge drop of water forming and falling down. "Thanks, just checking." So if the editor thinks what she wrote is unrealistic even while she herself is physically and emotionally reciprocating her physical connection to the teacher... one of the "males" from the End Credits is the old writer who she immediately turned off which mirrors her previous reaction to the teacher when choosing him as an advisor... "Some old man's wet dream" so that's got to be foreshadowing... Kazusa and Niina. It would seem to these two are in a love triangle, implied on Kazusa's part but intentional from Niina. She did a lot of auditioning for a suitable partner and given Izumi's aide to her notebook getting stepped on, I'd say he passed. Since she's not in it for anything but the sexual experience. Niina may just go ahead with it because she thinks it's meaningless and not a betrayal of any kind. Rika: She made Amagi write a 50 page report on why he's interested in her and I don't think she has to change. In fact, I don't want to see her change. Like Amagi, I want to see her go back to what she looked like. "Don't judge a book by its cover" crossed with "the leopard can't change its spots". She took her glasses off and suddenly everyone thinks she looks like a model? Did any of them besides Amagi take the time to truly look at her before? "It's just like a manga!" Among other things as well... we're wading into dangerous "Taming of the Shrew" waters and we'd better not drown in them. |
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Lancelotginus
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Had high hopes for the show knowing it was a Mari Okada project. Still did not expect it to be my favorite show of the season, it's really good and more people should be watching.
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 5
Okay. Sugawara is caught up in childhood affection she has to a much older man, who went so far as even admitting that he is a paedophile and that was attracted to her. He may have never done anything to her, but he was still her mentor, and did a lot of things with her that she clearly could pick up on, so she was apparently aware of certain things from a younger age, as a kid pushing his hand on her chest. Truth be, her feelings on the matter are probably not healthy, nor the explanation of why she is feeling pressured to have the experience before she "dies". The attention put on her could be kind of borderline grooming even if he says that he never intended to do anything, she never should have been placed in a situation where she could feel an adult being attracted to her like that. Hitoha's situation, is also kind of dubious. As much as Milo sensei thinks he is not doing anything wrong, and nothing against laws, I am pretty sure that pretty much asking your student to flash their panties at you is kind of scummy. His writing almost read like he did not want to be the one who said it, and just convince her to come up with doing such ideas. Seems pretty clear that the dude does indeed feel some attraction to his High School girls, and protests a bit too much. Momo's date, did not go well. He was acting like some sort of faux chivalrous guy, who acted like he was doing some big favour by covering 200 yen, talked himself up a lot, and did not really pay attention just assumed that her lack of a father was a sore spot. Took Momo getting a text from him, where he apparently apologised for bringing up a bad topic, and said that he knows other people who don't have fathers and does not think less of her, as if it is something she should feel ashamed of. After which she got words to describe him as gross, which it certainly feels that way. Her seeming lack of certain reactions, also makes me continue down the line that she is going to learn that she likes girls. Kazusa is still the freaking out in her head mode, currently stuck on the fact that Sugawara and Izumi both described the other to her as weird. Special mention for her getting so embarrassed from Izumi putting his fingers in a bowling ball that she had to walk away. And then Sonezaki is just having a totally cute acceptance of feelings and agreeing to date. |
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Animegomaniac
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That was glorious, wasn't it? "If you would be so kind." Formal, forward with a hint of hope. It's a stock reply but used as an answer to yes/no question of dating, it just places so much emphasis on the "if". And, obviously, one of the traits he likes in her is her intelligence as he appreciates the way she answered. That's the good, the rest of the group going down the "bad" route. I like Niina with Izumi. That is the first time we've seen her open up to someone. She smiled, she blushed, she laughed, she preened her hair, the tell of tells... if Kazusa wasn't in the story, she'd be dating him by the end of the conversation. It could all be an act but... no, I get the feeling she was testing him and he passed with a right answer every time. Really, the rest of the cast treats her like an idol of worship if not a god and this is the first time she's being normal with someone. Kazusa is in the story though and she's starting to feel like an observer. Niina and Izumi sees the other as weird and I'd say not in a bad way but in a "they're not what I expected" way. What's weird is how Izumi thinks Niina is approachable while her friends don't. Does Niina treat the club mates as accessories or an entourage? And I don't think Kazusa was merely embarrassed by Izumi's hole fingering technique, I think she was physically aroused by it. This is that kind of show after all.... Momoko... I'm still on the fence as she is. Perhaps her largest issue is that her four friends are so clearly hetero that Momoko is having problems identifying herself. On the other hand, she was looking for reasons to not like the guy and she made no effort to know him herself so she was most certainly half the reason the date was bad. This would be the point where a gay character should be introduced... maybe I watch anime from too much of a narrative perspective but there are times when the plot's got to plot and this is one of them. Hitoha... what they came up with isn't really a solution but new ways to heighten their sexual tension. She already mounted his leg, their next step shouldn't be visual sexual teasing, it should be a total split... if that's what they both want; It's not, it's REALLY not. It won't be long until their slow boil turns into hot gushing liquids. |
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DuskyPredator
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I went backwards and forwards a few times to think what the best word to use would be, first thinking "excited", but realizing that it was not exactly the word I was thinking of, considering "embarrassing", and that I thinking that there should be a word that is between the two, but I could not think of it. I ended up just writing what I did to describe the action of a teenage girl, in an episode that already had its quota of adult men being a little inappropriate with underage girls. "Aroused" is probably a fitting one though.
Which has me wonder if it is on purpose, that if you look at it on that level, Momoko does not seem to have the same anxiety that the other girls had with boys. Nothing with an excitement to get closer to him, learn about his habits, or what could happen between the two of them. For a girl on her first date and maybe even timid girl, she seemed more concerned by excessive bragging of 'manliness', and pretty much completely calm and kind of unfazed. Without really having a look at her home life, apparently without a father one might wonder if she has much exposure to males, but she did not even seem to notice that some people would see it as odd, and hardly seemed too frightened on the actual date. The obvious difference in how Momo talks about Sugawara, is probably going to mean sometime soon she is going to realize she thinks of her differently than she was about the boy she went on a date with. Sugawara, who is hung up on the man who groomed her and admitted that she hates even her friends idolizing her as perfect. |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 6
A good set up for a joke, where they said someone complained about the dance being obscene with girls and boys together, and then school fire making students fall into carnal desire, it really seemed like one person in particular would fit the description of making such complaints. And indeed Sonezaki owned up that it was her, did make me laugh. What makes it interesting is the fact they are currently trying to do the opposite, trying to find something romantic to make an urban legend about for the festival, especially in that Sonezaki is the one who accepted it. Another piece of humour in that the rest of the girls were surprised, but pretty clear to the audience that she has other reasons to the one they maybe bought from her, that the girl is growing. specifically she is also trying to find a way to create it so there will be a forest of romance so that the attention will not be entirely on her when she makes her new relationship public. In some ways the Sonezaki plot can feel like the most typical, but she is also very interesting. As someone so stuck in trying to be taken seriously, who actually had little confidence in herself, and so talked up the people who were more comfortable in things like sexuality and look pretty as obscene. She has been a bit of a late bloomer, and she is also at risk of even chasing away the guy that she accepted the feelings of, but may even be the best on the whole awakening thing of their age. The guy was not perfect either, in coming a bit strong for her in public. It would be good to see her move forward. And I would really like to see the character her to interact with would be the gayaru, they are opposites, and even in the episode was open with a title like obscene, which is something Sonezaki is terrified of, but it could go a way to make her more accepting of the things she is afraid of. Especially if they became confidants. Niina's teasing of Kazuya over insecurities Kazuya has over Niina being a fret to her crush's affections, are not really mature. But you can also see why she would be annoyed in how she could see the way Kazuya is feeling is like girls accusing her of trying to seduce boys they might like. At the same time, there is nothing malicious on the side of Kazuya, she is just a big ball of insecurities. Or really, all the girls are big balls of insecurity. Probably the guys too. |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 7
Sonezaki is getting into the high of her relationship, but she is also being too distant to him where it counts, and possibly lead to trouble. She couldn't at all go with him in the festival? Kazusa does seem to have gotten over some insecurities, by a good old fashioned pillow fight, even volunteering to do some romantic readings, and is ramping up for a confession. And yet, Niina seems to have come to her own realizations, that she too might have a crush on Izumi, the exact thing that Kazusa was afraid of, and is worried what it might hold for her friendship. Niina kissing (offscreen) and in general interacting with the pedophile director, was one of the hardest things to watch, with Niina in no way should take advice from, and should stay away. Maybe warn some people about him. And for Momo, she has not realized it, but she totally has a crush on Niina. She talked a lot in the episode that she has no idea she is supposed to find boys attractive, instead talking about the female form. Kazusa might have been the one internally talking about boobs a lot, but I wonder if the pres is starting to notice anything when Momo was calling Niina a handsome boy while crossdressing, while earlier saying she could not understand such male attraction. And Hitoha. What happened with her? She wore a thong to try and have some sort of event with Milo-sensei, but was floored by a fake out kiss. Dangerous territory is coming from them. Actually, wouldn't be surprise if a lot of hard stuff could come. Sonezaki could get dumped. Izumi could turn Kazusa down. Niina might put her feelings out and strain her friendship. And this could even affect Momo who might realize her crush, with feelings of jealousy. At the same time, in some sort of honesty it kind of feels like things breaking apart a bit could be what has these girls have their coming of age. Not like high school romances that last a lifetime have to be a norm, or something to hold sacred. Sonezaki be aware of her sexuality, be more open, and stop having the superiority complexes that she does seem to keep having. Hitoha to take things when ready, to like perspectives she can have at any particular time, and not feel pressured by her editor that much. Momo able to look for people that could return her feelings. And whatever it is that happens with Izumi, whether with Kazusa or Niina, that be consensual and for the right reasons. |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 8
Wow, I thought for sure everything was about to fall into sadness. Niina confessed to Izumi, taking the leap and forgoing the need of something like an urban legend, and yet it kind of seems like that was a net positive despite what the thought of affect that would happen on Kazusa would be. Momoko seemed to give the flick to the guy that she did not care for, who gave her the hilariously unpleasant face whenever he popped up. Sonezaki even might have noticed that her holding back with her bf so much was a problem, and did some bonding with the gyaru girl where she learned that is a perfectly fine person, who she probably could learn a bit from. Great moment when the girl brought her bf to Sonezaki, who she is apparently really into, and the guy was actually pretty normal looking and serious looking, really showing the gap in what Sonezaki thought. All that before the main event of the bonfire. Sonezaki made no qualms of keeping it quiet that she has been wrong with how she has thought, and indeed likes her bf, and no drama like I feared, and was made public and cheered. Hitoha perhaps was not happy, but probably very health, getting some positive feedback about her writing having an affect on people, but also see that Milo is probably much more interested in the teacher that he was giving mushrooms to in the other episode. Hitoha is not happy, but really not healthy for either of them if she keeps going after him. And it would seem that if Izumi did pick up that Niina was confessing to him, it was not returned but Izumi decided to be the one to make the move on Kazusa, because he did have some feelings that he has held. Niina, for her part, does not seem to have been ready to give up yet, which is maybe on the more dramatic side but she has felt some chemistry that she wants to see where it goes. Still some thoughts left over. Izumi did say that he loved Kazusa, but he also said earlier that he is not sure about his feelings. Leaves a little bit of me thinking whether there is something like he loves Kazusa as a person he grew up with, and not entirely as a romantic. Maybe I am just being pulled in by the chemistry coming from the Niina side. |
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Animegomaniac
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I think it's interesting that I came away with different conclusions from episode 8. Rika was surprised to find out that the gal's boyfriend was normal looking yet still interested in sex but before that we find out that the two of started a physical relationship before an emotional one... so a normal looking guy just randomly had sex with a gal? I'm just going to ask it then: How much do you think he paid her? Maybe it's nothing like that but there seems to be some details missing. The girl's glossing it over... perhaps even the entire relationship... and I think the guy would have a different story. Less "why have sex with a normal looking guy you don't know?" but "why have sex with a gal you don't know from a different school? Was there a reason why it was so anonymous?".
Kazusa and Izumi: My first thought even before the two started talking was that Kazusa had to take the initiative or she's be in danger of having Izumi define their relationship. She dithered as usual and as a result Izumi said he loved her, perhaps as an older sister or a younger sister or even as a best friend. He didn't know how but he knew he loved her. The clincher was when he put one foot on her shadow when he told her this. "I heard your legend, I weighed its words and this is the extent of my emotional feelings toward you". Feet that emotionally dismissive tend to walk AWAY from people, not towards them. He could have jumped in with both feet while still saying that he didn't know how he felt about his love for her but one foot? That's calculated. Niina and Izumi: The only thing I can say about that is we never heard what Izumi said to her. Seeing how she's going on the offensive next episode, I don't think it was a full out and out "No, there's definitely someone else." Even a "I'm flattered but right now, I'm thinking about someone else" would be enough ground for her to begin her attack. I'm for Niina and Izumi because they both become better people in each other's company but now I'm against Kazusa because she's just coasting on her "childhood friend" relationship as she thinks she's entitled to be in a relationship with Izumi.Izumi seems to be agreeing with her but he friendzoned that relationship from the start which would put her in an even worse position. But there's also a bit of more going on with Izumi seemingly thinking of Kazusa as both an older sister and a younger sister. Honestly, that's the death flag of any potential relationship because it's not "friend or sister" in his mind but really "I think of her like my sister but what kind of sister is she?" What kind of friend: She had a chance. What kind of sister: Well, she's always have an older or younger brother figure? Momoko and Niina: And then there's a potential stalker in the making. |
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