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NEWS: Funimation to Add 300+ Subtitled Anime Works to its FunimationNow Streaming Service


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Kadmos1



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:04 am Reply with quote
So, select titles will remain on both streaming sites. So, from a possibly practical standpoint, the FuniRoll marriage is still going on.
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RegSuzaku



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:11 am Reply with quote
So two of my favorite series are back to having one season on FUNi and one season on Crunchy.

(StarMyu and TsukiPro)

And K is still on neither...

But, I was critical of the whole "sub on one site, dub on the other" thing from the beginning. I just wish they would work out their contracts so it didn't have to be either of those issues.
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nDroae



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:33 am Reply with quote
Kadmos1 wrote:
So, select titles will remain on both streaming sites. So, from a possibly practical standpoint, the FuniRoll marriage is still going on.

It's more like they have joint custody of the children born of that marriage - anime they licensed that premiered in the last two years. Or at least that should be the reason for most of the remaining shows.

I haven't checked everything, but I noticed that Yamato 2199 is still on CR. That surprised me since it premiered in 2012, though it wasn't licensed by Funimation until 2017. Funi also licensed Hyouka in 2017, but it's gone from CR now. Different circumstances with Yamato? It did premiere weekly on CR in sync with the dub on Funimation, but that shouldn't make any difference from a licensing standpoint.
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Chichiryuutei





PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:25 am Reply with quote
nDroae wrote:
Kadmos1 wrote:
So, select titles will remain on both streaming sites. So, from a possibly practical standpoint, the FuniRoll marriage is still going on.

It's more like they have joint custody of the children born of that marriage - anime they licensed that premiered in the last two years. Or at least that should be the reason for most of the remaining shows.


I believe that the sharing is due to the actual licensing agreement with the anime committees. Funiroll had a dubbing & distribution deal (I'm assuming that Sentai might take over it soon) with Crunchyroll to prevent them from getting into the English dubbing market. I'm pretty sure that Funimation wasn't stupid enough to just agree to produce the dubs but also to own/share the streaming rights. Therefore, both companies knew that this was just a matter of time and were prepare for the end.

It'll be interesting in 5-7 years when the titles go up for renewal to see which company devices to renew the rights.
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TheAncientOne



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:51 am Reply with quote
nDroae wrote:

I haven't checked everything, but I noticed that Yamato 2199 is still on CR. That surprised me since it premiered in 2012, though it wasn't licensed by Funimation until 2017. Funi also licensed Hyouka in 2017, but it's gone from CR now. Different circumstances with Yamato? It did premiere weekly on CR in sync with the dub on Funimation, but that shouldn't make any difference from a licensing standpoint.

It is more likely the weekly rollout of 2199 was an indication it was a co-license, whereas Hyouka was a standard library acquisition for Funimation.
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DragenGD



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:29 am Reply with quote
300+ but they count every season of a multi-season anime as separate anime works. I suppose 200+ or 250+, whatever it might have been reduced to without doing that, just wasn't a big enough number?
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Mune



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:34 am Reply with quote
Am I the only one that thought the title was indicating the company Anime Works? I was like, really? They'll finally get Ikki Tousen Dragon Destiny on their platform after having the other seasons for years?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:37 am Reply with quote
Tsukiuta was never on Crunchyroll in the first place. Only Tsukipro was. I kept waiting for it to be brought over, but once they announced the split, I finally caved and watched it on funimation.
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Mavado



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:40 am Reply with quote
More titles added to Funimation, but still no streaming outside the US (and possibly UK?) I'm guessing.
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Paulo27



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:43 am Reply with quote
Kadmos1 wrote:
So, select titles will remain on both streaming sites. So, from a possibly practical standpoint, the FuniRoll marriage is still going on.
But instead of paying once and actually having everything in the same place, you have to pay twice for the certain things that aren't in one and are in the other.
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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:54 pm Reply with quote
If Crunchyroll is only losing the Funimation backlog but keeping the simulcasts from the last two years, that's a little less devastating but still frustrating for fans who wanted to watch the backlog. Funimation also mentioned before they would make some subtitle shows free as a result of the deal ending. It would be nice if Funimation started a similar practice to Crunchyroll putting up free ad supported simulcasts a week later after the premiere.
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lycopene





PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:15 pm Reply with quote
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
It would be nice if Funimation started a similar practice to Crunchyroll putting up free ad supported simulcasts a week later after the premiere.


They do have that option
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futuresoon



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:02 pm Reply with quote
What does this mean for future seasons of shows that are now partly on Funimation and partly on Crunchyroll? I notice My Hero Academia is split up now, but I'm sure Funimation will want to simuldub the inevitable next seasons. Bad enough that it's split up at all (though I guess the simuldub viewers won't be affected), but I really hope Crunchyroll can keep future streaming rights, because I don't want to have to pay for another streaming service. That's probably just a pipe dream, though.
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nDroae



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:35 pm Reply with quote
futuresoon wrote:
What does this mean for future seasons of shows that are now partly on Funimation and partly on Crunchyroll? I notice My Hero Academia is split up now, but I'm sure Funimation will want to simuldub the inevitable next seasons. Bad enough that it's split up at all (though I guess the simuldub viewers won't be affected), but I really hope Crunchyroll can keep future streaming rights, because I don't want to have to pay for another streaming service. That's probably just a pipe dream, though.

CR still has all of it, including season 1, which was added in 2017 as a Funimation catalog title Smile https://www.crunchyroll.com/my-hero-academia

I think Crunchyroll will probably keep simulcasting MHA indefinitely, by paying Funimation for the rights to do so. I say that because CR did that with Attack on Titan from the beginning, and MHA is now even bigger than Attack on Titan. Having a tentpole show like that is worth the extra cost, because it brings in many new viewers / potential customers.

TheAncientOne wrote:
nDroae wrote:

I haven't checked everything, but I noticed that Yamato 2199 is still on CR. That surprised me since it premiered in 2012, though it wasn't licensed by Funimation until 2017. Funi also licensed Hyouka in 2017, but it's gone from CR now. Different circumstances with Yamato? It did premiere weekly on CR in sync with the dub on Funimation, but that shouldn't make any difference from a licensing standpoint.

It is more likely the weekly rollout of 2199 was an indication it was a co-license, whereas Hyouka was a standard library acquisition for Funimation.

I was wondering if that might be the case for 2199 but doubted it. If so, then that's cool of CR to invest in the show. Judging by many comments I've seen around the forums, it was fairly well seen and very well received by CR subscribers, so I guess it was worth it.

Chichiryuutei wrote:
I believe that the sharing is due to the actual licensing agreement with the anime committees.

Yeah, for a while I've been calling everything "co-licensed" without really thinking about it, but while writing that it occurred to me that some shows may have been negotiated by one company alone (sequels especially)? And if so then those shows premiering during the deal would still be "permanently" shared by default without the other company needing to be named in the license with the production committee, except where prohibited by preexisting terms, which I'm told was likely the case with the Tokyo Ghoul franchise.

I mean, Funimation was able to put most of their catalog on CR without getting the production committees' permission to add CR to the shows' licenses; couldn't it work that way for a simulcast? I imagine licenses include general terms permitting the licensee to host the show on other companies' sites, as long as the sites apply appropriate region-blocking and whatever other stipulations?


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cyberdraco



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:36 pm Reply with quote
GUYS, even with these shows leaving, Crunchyroll still has like a lot of shows you can watch.
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