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jirg1901
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:45 am
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So likely the actual party that's the cause for the dispute here that goes completely unmentioned is Nippon Columbia, Murakawa's recording label since seemingly sometime after production of the original game. They don't have direct jurisdiction here but they have the most investment in the actress' image, anyways, so if it's not a straight up performer/staff conflict that's the most likely reason considering the agency is perfectly willing to throw one of their others at it.
I feel like there's some interesting implications for the toned down fan service in Brave Witches in there as well.
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BlueAlf
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:09 am
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How curious. I wonder what sort of changes they were asking for.
I kinda get it if it's live action movies. But since this is adapted from a game, I never imagined something like this can arise from a script dispute.
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catbot158
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:15 am
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I'm guessing from the amount of effort Murakawa's agency put into trying to alter the scene that it was probably sexual in some sort. Which would be a bit weird, considering that she already voiced the character in the game and presumably did a version of these scenes in the game, but since the change was to "maintain her image", it sort of makes sense.
This was a interesting tidbit from the producing industry. Lots of negotiation are involved when producing an anime, and sometimes you can't win them all.
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Yuu~
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:43 am
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catbot158 wrote: | I'm guessing from the amount of effort Murakawa's agency put into trying to alter the scene that it was probably sexual in some sort. Which would be a bit weird, considering that she already voiced the character in the game and presumably did a version of these scenes in the game, but since the change was to "maintain her image", it sort of makes sense. |
Which is still weird because this visual novel is rated for all age aka no sexual content. If it is like Himawari (another VN written by the same writer and also published by Frontwing (and MangaGamer in English)) then it shouldn't be much more then some dirty jokes on the level of Seitokai Yakuindomo.
I'd love to know what scene they are talking about.
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BlackPoint.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:40 am
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Well i am just glad to see this is still alive as its been quite some time since they announced the anime.
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VanGosroth
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:04 pm
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I'm going to laugh when this finally comes out and people scramble to find the offending scene only to be at a loss as to wtf the big deal was.
No biggie though. I'm sure they will find someone who sounds close enough. I personally don't care who the VA's are as long as they do a good job.
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Paulo27
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:18 pm
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I played a bit of the game and I'm pretty sure at one point the character in question attempts to kill (or kills? it's been a long time for me) the MC.
Given how long ago the game was (almost 2 years) and how seiyuus' careers can be so fast moving, I wouldn't be surprised if they (their agents) no longer wanted her to associate to stuff like that.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:35 pm
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Paulo27 wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if they (their agents) no longer wanted her to associate to stuff like that. |
I kinda think this has probably killed her VA anime career.
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Paulo27
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:37 pm
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TarsTarkas wrote: |
Paulo27 wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if they (their agents) no longer wanted her to associate to stuff like that. |
I kinda think this has probably killed her VA anime career. |
I believe they are focusing more on her singing career for now.
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Chrono1000
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:08 pm
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Well this makes me curious since it was an all ages game so what could they have added to the anime for her agency to force a change of one of the main characters. I mean recently she does a lot of shoujo shows but a few years ago she was in Pandora in the Crimson Shell and Vividred Operation.
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Niyari
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:35 pm
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considering who replaced her, it's likely some suggestive/borderline 18+ stuff that Murakawa felt uncomfortable doing in an anime that's going to be watched allover the world. i'm not convinced it was the agency that instigated this
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TasteyCookie
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:44 pm
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Niyari wrote: | considering who replaced her, it's likely some suggestive/borderline 18+ stuff that Murakawa felt uncomfortable doing in an anime that's going to be watched allover the world. i'm not convinced it was the agency that instigated this |
Except she already voiced whatever offending scene it was in the VN. Not abiding to a sequel adaptation of a work without a legitimate reason (aka health or too busy to book) is pretty much suicide for a (non-popular) VA's career, especially when she already agreed to do it originally. Production committees do not take backing out of agreements lightly. If it was indeed Murakawa who made the decision, it was an extremely poor career choice. If she had ethical qualms, she shouldn't have voiced the character in the first place. But it sounds more like her agency is the one who made the decision.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:12 pm
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Paulo27 wrote: |
TarsTarkas wrote: |
Paulo27 wrote: | I wouldn't be surprised if they (their agents) no longer wanted her to associate to stuff like that. |
I kinda think this has probably killed her VA anime career. |
I believe they are focusing more on her singing career for now. |
Probably quite true and more profitable if successful. But there is no question bridges were burned, she or her agency should have thought of this before they signed the dotted line.
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BlueAlf
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:40 pm
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Paulo27 wrote: | I played a bit of the game and I'm pretty sure at one point the character in question attempts to kill (or kills? it's been a long time for me) the MC.
Given how long ago the game was (almost 2 years) and how seiyuus' careers can be so fast moving, I wouldn't be surprised if they (their agents) no longer wanted her to associate to stuff like that. |
Hey, this is actually a really interesting point.
You're right about how a performers image can change significantly in just two years.
Now I'm wondering whether she was already with her agency by the time she took the job for voicing the game.
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#878863
Joined: 10 Jan 2018
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:23 pm
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can we talk about how big that one girls hair is
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