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Arkthelad



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:21 am Reply with quote


your name. (movie)

Genres: comedy, drama, romance, supernatural
Themes: amnesia, body switch, natural disaster, tragedy

Plot Summary: Mitsuha Miyamizu is a high school student in the rural countryside of Japan. Taki Tachibana is a teenager living in Tokyo. As a comet approaches Earth, their dreams and lives start getting entangled. One day Mitsuha wakes up as Taki. Taki one day wakes up as Mitsuha. For a few days they sporadically switch bodies until one afternoon they lose complete contact.
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[I'm sorry if there's already a Your Name thread but I couldn't find it on the board]

I just watched this recently with really high expectations given the hype about it. Especially I was encouraged to hear that it had a really strong plot. I have to say that I really don’t agree with this assessment. To me this seemed like a fairly generic contemporary sci-fi/fantasy anime series, just in the form of a film and with higher production values. It had a lot of the aspects that people tend to complain about with such modern series such as the gaping plot holes. spoiler[How did neither of them realise that it was a different year while they were in the other’s body? How did the guy not recognise (through the name) that this was the town which was destroyed by a meteor 3 years ago?] In terms of narrative quality I don’t see how this is really any better than something like Stein’s Gate or Eden of the East which are generally not remembered as masterpieces. Just to be clear here I’m only talking about the story, I’m not commenting on the quality of the animation or any other aspect. What did I miss about the story that other people got?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:31 pm Reply with quote
Due to how it was released, I think most of the discussion of this movie took place elsewhere, like twitter. I didn't want to get spoilered, and I don't like using "other means", and I couldn't see it in an American theater, so that was just my bad luck. Sad

I think the characters are nicely realized. And I liked the movie overall. But...

The movie's supernatural elements are just very fickle. A person accepts that or they don't. I just put up with them, the way I put up with mecha's actually working in mech shows.

I think that for the plot holes, while they are a problem, just how much of a problem really depends on a viewer's sentimentality, and, somewhat, on how much a person was effected by the 2011 earthquake. The meteor strike can't help but remind a person of that.

I'm just enough of a sentimentalist to be won over by the film's 'heart'. So I liked it. That's just me.
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nobahn
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:48 pm Reply with quote
Arkthelad--

You may get more of a response if you post your question here (sub review) or here (dub review). Necroposting will not be an issue.....

Just FYI: If you want to quickly look for a thread -- and you're having a hard time with the search engine -- then you can try the below.
  • Search either the anime or manga databases and see if the associated Encyclopedia page lists any reviews -- it's important to remember that reviews (like all other editorial content) are exempt from the necroposting rule. FWIW, here is the your name. (movie) Encyclopedia page.....
  • You can also look for either an anime or manga dedicated series discussion thread. Such threads are also exempt from the necroposting rule.

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Crisha
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:13 pm Reply with quote
Moved this thread to a more appropriate forum and changed the title. There hasn't been an anime thread created for this movie, so this one is now the official one.
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:20 pm Reply with quote
louis showed me this movie at the last con we were at. LOVED it; it was very beautiful. Taki and Mitsuha were so cute. I will probably end up getting a copy of the bluray for myself.

Scenery porn indeed.
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Animegomaniac



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:20 pm Reply with quote
I have the Your Name. BD and scenery porn is the only thing it has going for it.

I didn't know about those two reviews threads because they're for limited theater releases and I would hardly call them relevant areas of discussion. And if Twitter was where debate about this movie occurred... one superficial sentence at a time... then I could understand why this movie went so far before being challenged in a "Emperor has no clothes" way or in this case, clothes are all it has going for it.

I'm still trying to decide if I hate it or not; It's calculating and emotionally manipulative but not in the Key way you'd get in Clannad or Kanon. How should I put it... the story was written in such a way that every contrivance that happened was to move towards that one outcome, regardless if it made sense or not. Things like spoiler[time travel, amnesia, physical world manipulation, virtual world manipulation and people in Tokyo not caring about one little village being wiped off the map]

Yes, I know that last one is the point they waned to hit hard but spoiler[a thousand year comet is not on the same level as a region prone to earthquakes being hit by an earthquake]. It's not something you're likely to forget or ignore.
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Arkthelad



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:39 pm Reply with quote
Animegomaniac wrote:
I have the Your Name. BD and scenery porn is the only thing it has going for it.



See I wouldn't have a problem if the reviewers had said "The story isn't anything special but the visuals alone make this a fantastic film". If you look at the reviews even by mainstream film critics you'd get the impression that this was a flawless work, with nothing that anyone might find objectionable.
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:53 pm Reply with quote
Arkthelad wrote:
with nothing that anyone might find objectionable.


I can't really find anything objectionable about the movie....unless you're a person who DEMANDS logic in your films; I'm more of an 'emotions' fan. I love all of Jun Maeda's work; that should speak for itself. xD
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nobahn
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:24 pm Reply with quote
Chiibi wrote:

I can't really find anything objectionable about the movie....unless you're a person who DEMANDS logic in your films; I'm more of an 'emotions' fan. I love all of Jun Maeda's work; that should speak for itself. xD

Depending upon the severity, plot holes can be a deal breaker for me.....
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Arkthelad



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:43 pm Reply with quote
Chiibi wrote:
Arkthelad wrote:
with nothing that anyone might find objectionable.


I can't really find anything objectionable about the movie....unless you're a person who DEMANDS logic in your films; I'm more of an 'emotions' fan. I love all of Jun Maeda's work; that should speak for itself. xD


I don't think you can totally separate realism or internal logic from drama. Even if a scene in a story is trying to invoke emotion it won't be successful for many people if it doesn't seem believable, either compared with real life or within the specific context of the story. For example, the dramatic peaks in Silent Voice that effected me the most were those that seemed believable. The scenes that didn't seem believable were just meh, even though they were trying to be emotive.
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:22 pm Reply with quote
Arkthelad wrote:
I don't think you can totally separate realism or internal logic from drama.


Sure you can; that's why this film works for the critics. Anime hyper
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:22 pm Reply with quote
For me, the whole thing held together while I was watching it. After it was over, I could see several problems with the plot, however that did not keep me from enjoying the movie. I will admit that I thought nasty thoughts at the director in the last few minutes spoiler[when it seemed as though they would pass each other without speaking].
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Blood-
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:01 pm Reply with quote
It sounds like I enjoyed the movie more than the OP but I agree with the general premise of not understanding why this film became such a phenomenon.
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:04 am Reply with quote
Blood- wrote:
It sounds like I enjoyed the movie more than the OP but I agree with the general premise of not understanding why this film became such a phenomenon.


Isn't it because it's Makoto Shinkai's first work to be SCREENED in US theaters?

The casual anime watcher probably wouldn't have seen a film this visually breath-taking. I can't think of too many animated movies that can compare with the scenery porn. Anime hyper
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:01 am Reply with quote
@ Chiibi - I was referring more to the film's rapturous reception in Japan.
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