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MoonPhase1
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:59 am
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That isn't much different than like buying beer at the grocery store without drinking it but still pulled over anyways. If he's not high while driving then I don't see the problem.
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fencer_x
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 6:46 am
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MoonPhase1 wrote: | That isn't much different than like buying beer at the grocery store without drinking it but still pulled over anyways. If he's not high while driving then I don't see the problem. |
"I don't see the problem"
Well weed is illegal in Japan sooooo...?? Per The Weed Blog:
"The Japanese public generally sees drug use as an admission of deep seated evil. The public get up in arms over people being caught with marijuana, so you are unlikely to be treated with any sympathy. Under the Cannabis Control Law in Japan, being caught with even a single joint can get you a five year prison sentence with some hard labor thrown in for good measure. They’ll be a little more lenient if it’s your first time, but you’ll still get around a six month sentence. Foreigners aren’t likely to be jailed, but will be deported from the country with no hope of ever going back."
It's a pretty big deal.
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chronos02
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:31 am
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It doesn't matter that there's maria in his van as long as the police can't find a direct relation between him and the maria being there. Presumption of Innocence prevails above everything else, and even if there is some circumstancial evidence, that would not proove a direct relationship between him and the maria.
Someone could've left it there as some sort of revenge while tipping off the police so they stop his van, a friend of his could've forgotten it there for god knows how long, he could've lent the van and someone left it there for hiding it, etc. the possibilities are endless, and if he's proven to not have taken any, there's simply no way to directly relate the two.
The only thing the police could do in this case is force him to "confess" as the Japanese police is known to do, but I doubt it reaches that point seeing as Tanaka is/was someone famous.
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Banken
Joined: 29 May 2007
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:49 am
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Never, ever let cops search your things.
Japan's reefer madness is such an anachronism.
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valoon
Joined: 01 Apr 2015
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:05 am
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That's just ridiculous. The war on drugs has finally to stop
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:14 am
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An unfortunate moment... Hopefully he'll be set free with only a warning...
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Jonny Mendes
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:34 am
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He's better get a good lawyer and a good reason for the drug been there.
Japan is know for not play around with illicit substances.
Even having unauthorized medicines can bring trouble to you and even worse if is drugs like marijuana or cocaine.
Something like marijuana can be bad to his career but he can be forgiven if no more things like this happen again.
Cocaine and other worse drugs can be career ending.
You can criticize Japan to be very hard with artists when there are drugs incidents but don't forget that artists are consider examples for young people and they don't admit bad examples.
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maximilianjenus
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:12 am
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chronos02 wrote: | Presumption of Innocence prevails above everything else, |
that's cute but it's also false in a lot of countries around the world.
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Usagi-kun
Joined: 03 Jul 2013
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:23 pm
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Quote: | live-action television adaptation of Fumi Yoshinaga's Ōoku: The Inner Chambers manga. |
...I didn't know this was a thing. Helluva throwaway in this article, to me, at least.
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Ambimunch
Joined: 30 Aug 2012
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:32 pm
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chronos02 wrote: | It doesn't matter that there's maria in his van as long as the police can't find a direct relation between him and the maria being there. Presumption of Innocence prevails above everything else.... the possibilities are endless, and if he's proven to not have taken any, there's simply no way to directly relate the two |
It's actually the other way around. It's his responsibility to prove that he has no connection to the weed, his ass is on the line here. As it stands, he got busted with an illegal substance in his car, that's all the cops need. Now he better hire lawyers and work his ass off trying to prove his innocence, that's not the job of the police.
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Tomibiki
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:29 pm
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Nippon Buddha is pretty bammer though, still can't believe they see this as a dangerous product/sinful act. It's like inhaling chalk dust.
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leafy sea dragon
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:33 pm
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MoonPhase1 wrote: | That isn't much different than like buying beer at the grocery store without drinking it but still pulled over anyways. If he's not high while driving then I don't see the problem. |
There are some pretty detailed laws in most countries about alcohol in vehicles, however. A common one is that alcoholic beverages CAN be present in a car, but the container cannot be open. (There is a drive-thru bar in New Orleans, for instance, which specializes in hard slushes served in foam cups--they can get away with it because when served, the lid has not yet been punctured by the straw and is legally a closed container.)
valoon wrote: | That's just ridiculous. The war on drugs has finally to stop |
I think many people want the war on drugs to stop, but the crime syndicates that run the drug trade are ridiculously powerful and have a lot of friends in high places. The South American cartels are famous for their influence, but the Yakuza are no joke either, with their arms in many key industries, like construction.
Ambimunch wrote: | It's actually the other way around. It's his responsibility to prove that he has no connection to the weed, his ass is on the line here. As it stands, he got busted with an illegal substance in his car, that's all the cops need. Now he better hire lawyers and work his ass off trying to prove his innocence, that's not the job of the police. |
Guilty until proven innocent? Yikes, that's terrible. Maybe he should secretly flee to the United States. You know what city on Earth has the highest ratio of marijuana dispensaries to its population? Hollywood, California.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:49 pm
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fencer_x wrote: |
"I don't see the problem"
Well weed is illegal in Japan sooooo...?? Per The Weed Blog:
"The Japanese public generally sees drug use as an admission of deep seated evil. The public get up in arms over people being caught with marijuana, so you are unlikely to be treated with any sympathy. Under the Cannabis Control Law in Japan, being caught with even a single joint can get you a five year prison sentence with some hard labor thrown in for good measure. They’ll be a little more lenient if it’s your first time, but you’ll still get around a six month sentence. Foreigners aren’t likely to be jailed, but will be deported from the country with no hope of ever going back."
It's a pretty big deal. |
Japan is like Jeff Sessions' wet dream.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 5:24 am
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chronos02, while presumption of innocence is of utmost importance, I guess the the deep-seated hatred of certain crimes in specific countries has people forgetting about that.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 2:32 am
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Jonny Mendes wrote: |
You can criticize Japan to be very hard with artists when there are drugs incidents but don't forget that artists are consider examples for young people and they don't admit bad examples. |
.....Here's the thing though he's a grown man not a teen idol or anything and even if he were it's his life to do with as he wants.
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