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Why is anime in general so hated?


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barfing_bunnies



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:26 pm Reply with quote
Why do so many people dislike all anime? At school people call it "those weird kiddy cartoons like Yugioh that are really violent and the people have big eyes", I hate it how people can't appreciate it and judge it anyways but most of the time they've never seen it Evil or Very Mad . What makes anime so hated by others? Question
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:32 pm Reply with quote
Because:

1. People often times view them all as cartoons intended for children and don't ever take them seriously.
2. The existance of hentai (pornographic anime) makes people believe that all anime is for perverts.
3. Because you like it, people feel the need to hate it.
4. Because it's not "cool" and only nerds, dorks, and geeks watch it.

That's all I can think of for now, I'm sure there's many more though...
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Stupidman007



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:35 pm Reply with quote
To add on to Pantsgoblin

5. Because it's different.
6. Because it originated and still is from a different country.

However, it's probably mainly because of pokemon. Lots of things came up during the pokemon days, and people either hated it or loved it. Those who loved pokemon often turned out to be fans of anime and those who hated just generalize anime with pokemon etc...
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Thanatos01s2



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:40 pm Reply with quote
To add on some more:

7. Because of the fans. Yeah its true, otaku's push people away from anime. I personally hate them and they make me dislike anime a little. That is just my two and a half cents though.

I guess the other reason is the only "anime" non-fans are exposed to is pokemon and yugioh.
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huh?



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:41 pm Reply with quote
there must be things that you dislike or hate based purely on judegements made prior to actually having experienced whatever it is your judging. and even if that is not the case there must be things that you have given a fair chance and just didn't like. therefore it is to be assumed that since all humans are different and we all like different things, that some of us are going to dislike anime.
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Thanatos01s2



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:43 pm Reply with quote
huh? wrote:
there must be things that you dislike or hate based purely on judegements made prior to actually having experienced whatever it is your judging. and even if that is not the case there must be things that you have given a fair chance and just didn't like. therefore it is to be assumed that since all humans are different and we all like different things, that some of us are going to dislike anime.


Could you please give a more generic opinion?

*sarcasm meter overload*
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Stupidman007



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:44 pm Reply with quote
huh? wrote:
there must be things that you dislike or hate based purely on judegements made prior to actually having experienced whatever it is your judging. and even if that is not the case there must be things that you have given a fair chance and just didn't like. therefore it is to be assumed that since all humans are different and we all like different things, that some of us are going to dislike anime.


Not giving things a chance, not thinking rationally, being unfair, generalizing, those are all part of human nature. If we weren't like that, then we wouldn't be humans.....
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Alex K.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:50 pm Reply with quote
I think you're being a bit extreme. Anime is becoming more and more accepted in American culture. I gave a speech on anime conventions today and a few members of the class said they sometimes watch FMA, DBZ and Ghost in the Shell. Some girl even said she doesn't like anime, but showed me her cell phone wallpaper of Inuyasha, and some dude mentioned how he thinks Kagome is cute. I was surprised, I must say.

The main reason I think anime isn't as widely accepted as, say, football, is because it's different from what we as Americans except from entertainment, or at least cartoons. Also, most Americans tend to have this misguided belief that cartoons are only for kids and that it's immature for an older person to watch cartoons. Many people think that the only people who watch anime are nerds and pedophiles because they only know about DBZ and hentai. They think that anime fans should grow up and get lives, but they really don't know what they're talking about. Most of the people that do this are jocks who abuse their girlfriends, preps who don't like anything that appeals to someone else, and soccer moms and Christian extremists who believe anime is the work of Satan because it features profanity and violence and is "corrupting our youth" somehow.

Anime haters can rot in hell for all I care. Let them have their misguided, biased beliefs that MTV is the best channel in the world and that every single American watches football. They don't know what they're missing.
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huh?



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:52 pm Reply with quote
Thanatos01s2 wrote:
huh? wrote:
there must be things that you dislike or hate based purely on judegements made prior to actually having experienced whatever it is your judging. and even if that is not the case there must be things that you have given a fair chance and just didn't like. therefore it is to be assumed that since all humans are different and we all like different things, that some of us are going to dislike anime.


Could you please give a more generic opinion?

*sarcasm meter overload*


im glad that you pointed out the evident sarcasm otherwise i would have infact given a much more generic opinion. thanks.

it seems simple to me; of course there are people that dont like anime. this is the case for eveything. im sick of some people that take it personally, as if eveyone should watch and accept anime as this holy entity.

Stupidman007 wrote:
huh? wrote:
there must be things that you dislike or hate based purely on judegements made prior to actually having experienced whatever it is your judging. and even if that is not the case there must be things that you have given a fair chance and just didn't like. therefore it is to be assumed that since all humans are different and we all like different things, that some of us are going to dislike anime.


Not giving things a chance, not thinking rationally, being unfair, generalizing, those are all part of human nature. If we weren't like that, then we wouldn't be humans.....


and were you agreeing with me. i couldnt quite tell, although it seems as if you were.

Alex K. wrote:
Most of the people that do this are jocks who abuse their girlfriends, preps who don't like anything that appeals to someone else, and soccer moms and Christian extremists who believe anime is the work of Satan because it features profanity and violence and is "corrupting our youth" somehow.



the way that you judge those that dislike anime and lump them into neat little piles without having met them or really knowing anything about them. just goes to prove my point
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jaybug39



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:04 pm Reply with quote
To me, anime is not hated by mainstream Americans, it is just not looked upon with favor. And I think it is something as simple as the fact that anime is drawn, not live-action. That it is a cartoon. And cartoons are Bugs Bunny, funny and not to be taken seriously. Cartoons are for Saturday mornings, for the little tykes.

To be taken seriously in America one has to use actors, not just voice-actors. Like American Idol for example. How big is that? It's the Gong Show for the new millenia.

I do think certain animators such as Hiyao Miyazaki are bringing more respect to the genre. But for every Spirited Away, how far does each new Pokemon type series seet the genre back in terms of respectibility, I do not know.

Our part needs to be to support high quality anime. The more good stuff we consume, the more they'll make. Hopefully it will work that way. If it were American studios I would wonder.
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DuelLadyS



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:17 pm Reply with quote
Anime is 'hated' simply due to lack of exposure.

People just won't go buy a $30 anime DVD on a whim- they have to like it first. Television is the only real way for anime to get enough exposure to trigger the exploration into the market. And what's on TV? Kid's shows (Pokemon), and action shows (Inuyasha.) Not bad shows, mind you , but it's not very diverse. So people reach a stereotype of some kind in their mind.

Things are getting better- action-oriented shows with fairly mature undertones are starting to get airtime (Cowboy Bebop), and the Anime Network allows for a much more diverse set of shows to get out to a larger audience.

What you should be doing, rather than just shrugging off these 'haters' and pondering their motives on a message board- is find out what they normally watch, and reccomend an appropriate show. I once lent a Heroic Legend of Arislan video to an art teacher, who returned it stunned at the subject matter, particularly the very not Japanese-sounding soundtrack (she couldn't get over the sitars.)

I suppose the best way to sum it up is to recount an experince from my early fandom- a friend of mine announced us as anime fans to a couple of guys. I sheepishly explained we'd only seen DBZ. One guy shrugged us off and left. The other suggested I rent Akira. I did- and here I am. (Although The Slayers was the real deal-clincher, in retrospect. Wink )
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Natendo64



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:33 pm Reply with quote
Anime doesn't get a lot of appreciation in my school, I only know Fellow Students who don't bother going beyond Pokemon or Yugioh. The Best If found were those who either know about Anime, or watch Toonami's Anime Block. so as you can tell, in my school Anime Fandom is about as Diverse as a bowl of Nails, I'm the only Dedicated anime fanboy in my school. So in My Mind, anime isn't Hated, just Under Appreciated by people who don't bother going near it.
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emory



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:50 pm Reply with quote
It's not hated. It's simply not preferred.

I'll try to make my point without reiterating what everyone has already said. Cartoons are for kids, etc., but we're slowly moving out of that phase with more and more adult animation coming out of the woodwork. But even still, adults view animated programming as a form of escapism, thus limiting the medium to comedy. That's just the way it's been for decades and decades, all the way back to Looney Tunes. Adults 25-54 still aren't willing to commit to serialized animation as they are to live action dramas like 24 or Lost. Kids, teens, and some young adults are more willing to, but in my opinion, it's going to be at least 5 years before we see a dramatic serial cartoon on a network like, say, FOX.
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Azathrael



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:54 pm Reply with quote
I don't think people "hate" them but rather ignore them as nothing more than cartoons. It's also definitely not "hate" because even the United States is becoming more and more open to anime (just look at how much AS has developed over the past year) and I'm willing to bet that it will take less than 10 years from now before anime makes its debut as a standard channel on your local cable TV.

One thing I'm looking forward to is how American sports fans will react to anime. I just can't imagine a hardcore NFL fan watching anime as his pastime when he's not talking about steroid abusers. Maybe in another decade or two, who knows? ^^;;
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:04 am Reply with quote
Anime's just a way of life in Japan. Most people enjoy watching it over there. I have met only person who said they don't like anime. All the other people like it. My boss at work LOVES hentai.
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