Forum - View topic[Slightly OT] Cartoons too racy for TV?
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Ramen
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I was watching Hardball on MSNBC just now, and they were talking about cartoons on TV getting too racy. In particular they were talling about Stripperella on the new TNN, but I thought it was pretty interesting that this was on a major cable news network. Could they be talking about anime next?
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Case
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Well... Did they?
I can understand how some people might feel that way. But it's always been that way, hasn't it? Either way, if Matthews mentioned anime and has an arguement to present to us the fans, so be it. (Imagine having Giles Poitras or one of the other anime community personas arguing anime on TV *_* ) If he didn't... Then I don't think we've really got much to talk about here. He's got better things to rant on than to do a miniseries about what's-on-TV. If you want to ponder on the presence of that sentiment in the silent minority you can... but that seems pretty pointless to me. I'll wait until the day that somebody DOES have a live discussion, with real-world concerns to repond to, rather than trying to argue against my own wild imagination. This fandom has too much of that already. |
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dannavy85
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I'm waiting for the Anime hating law suits that will someday join the ones against Smoking and fast food as being..." A danger to American youth."
Don't laugh....I see this coming in the next 10 years. |
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Coral Skipper
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The sad part is I agree with you. |
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jmays
ANN Past Staff
 Posts: 1390 Location: St. Louis, MO |
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No worries. We're alrady there with video games and "violent" television. -Miagi |
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v1cious
 Posts: 6238 Location: Houston, TX |
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the new Ren & Stimpy completely screwed, i don't know how they can get away with this. for fudge's sake, who's bright idea was it to make them queer? that shit's just wrong.
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dannavy85
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Get a grip! John K's Ren and Stimpy has always been combative and pushing the limits of cartoon censorship and he makes fun of and insults the heck out of everything! He's not endorsing homosexuality here, he's making fun of it. He made fun of homeless people, bar drinkers, he's gross! I'm glad to see Ren and Stimpy coming back uncensored, Nick-toons had no damn right 10 years ago censoring it.
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v1cious
Posts: 6238 Location: Houston, TX |
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don't kget me wrong, i have nothing against gays... it's just something that doesn't fit with Ren And Stimpy of all things. it's just weird. |
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Craeyst Raygal
 Posts: 1383 Location: In the garage, beneath a 1970 MGB GT. |
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I think the big question as to if something is too "racy" for television is how is sexuality portrayed?
I'll use a videogame example. Compare, if you will, the girls of Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball to, say.... Candy Suxx in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. In DOA, the girls are obviously meant to arouse and there is a double entendre to a lot of their activities (jumping across the pool? We know why that's in there and it's not for testing dexterity) but it isn't there simply to "have sex in the game". Or, more carefully worded, the purpose isn't shocking people because "huh huh, she said c*ck". It's a difference in attitude, the difference between erotica and pornography, the difference between celebrating sensuality and being downright vulgar. I've always believed that our society needs a good dose of open sexuality because it's the puritan closed-mindedness that creates the "dirty" image of sex, and in tow brings out vulgar drek like Stripperella and breeds violent sexual offenders. Oppressed and silenced urges and desires, instead of openly addressed and discussed ones, are the very root of sociopathic behavior. It's amazing what conclusions you draw after reading the collective works of Anais Nin. |
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The Ramblin' Wreck
 Posts: 924 Location: Teaching Robot Women How To Love |
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^^
Our society needs "more open sexuality"?? Right, that doesn't explain all the fanservice I will be seeing in Charlie's Angels: Full Throlte or the covers of Cosmo and Maxim or a cartoon called "Stripperella" or federal tax dollars sponsering a pamphlet called "Bootylicious" [sic] to high schoolers explaining better ways of anal sex or a media atmosphere which celebrates promiscuity or even fansevice in Anime! I'd say we're open enough, thank you very much. Sorry,...... end of rant |
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Pitargo Nats
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How far is to far? We as members of an American culture place our own boundries on what is considered decent and what is not. If you compare the cultural beliefs on sex and sexuality between here in American and those of Europe and parts of Asia we are VERY conservative. Yet we are liberal to in comparason to other cultures. The same can be said for humor. One of my favorite comics--George Carlin--joked about knives and other sharp instraments on planes back around the Gulf War of '91, yet today most people here in America would find it funny. Yet back then it was absolutely hillarious. Another example was when Elvis was on the Ed Sullivan show, they shot him from the waist up so that television viewers would not have to be subjected to his girating hips. Now, we have sexually explict acts on prime time broadcast shows....NYPD Blue. What one must remember is that for every boundry that is set, some one, some day will push and break that boundry. This is how cultures evolve and change.
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dannavy85
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Not questioning that at all. Maybe we should flashback to ten years ago when John Krikfalusi got into this little war with Nick-toons over their over-zelot censorship of R&S when it first came out. They promised John K. artistic liberty to do as he saw fit since back then we all thought Nick was a "no censor zone" how we were given such B.S. I got sick of that stupid great dane of an idiot Scooby Doo playing all the time on early Nick while they turned on John K and started trying to control R&S. So John K. told them to go (beeeeeep) themselves. Sorry to vent... the only place for cartoon censoring people is a vat of hot acid. |
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Koumi addict
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We got Nazi prudes.
Period. |
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The Ramblin' Wreck
Posts: 924 Location: Teaching Robot Women How To Love |
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Sir, I most sincerely hope that you are jesting. How many people have been killed for watching this kind of material? How many people have been forced to watch their families shot down because of a magazine they bought? Watch your language on these matters. You know nothing about what a " Nazi prude" is. |
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Kagato
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Obviously socxiety will continue a downward spiral of censorship,political correctness,and pushing boundaries until all of the world is engulfed in chaos.I,for one,hope to watch this happen.
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