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boznia
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:37 am
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I hope more join in. It's an excellent way to protest the bill.
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marcos torres toledo
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:37 am
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I agree with Kadokawa Shoten discession there is to much censor of anime on the television already take Ani-Monday and Cartoon Network they censor female nudity even though the programs air afther 11pm. I think this redicluios and inslult to the maturity of their audience IFC does not do this and I like their stance on this issue. I hope the above cable channels change their policy soon and respect their viewers intelligence and maturity and I hope Kadokawa Shoten and the other anime companys win this inportant issue.
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Emerje
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:33 am
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That's quite the statement to make. Kudos to Kadokawa for taking a bold stance against this bill. They'll make some publicity for this while TAF will suffer from loosing a major, paying supporter.
marcos torres toledo wrote: | I agree with Kadokawa Shoten discession there is to much censor of anime on the television already take Ani-Monday and Cartoon Network they censor female nudity even though the programs air afther 11pm. |
You're comparing two entirely unrelated and very, very different things here. You're comparing minor censoring on a couple American networks that don't allow nudity (and strong language) of any kind in the fist place while unedited alternatives exist, to an attempt to censor and sanitize a large chunk of the Japanese entertainment industry including anime, manga, and video games of things like sex, violence, and homosexuality. If you want to compare it to something compare it to California's multiple attempts at banning and further regulating the creation and sales of video games with adult themes, but be sure to multiply it by 100 when you do.
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dormcat
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:04 am
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I'm a bit surprised to see the forum of ANN so quiet on this "declaration of war" or "Seven Days of Fire has just started" (as described by East Asian anime fandom).
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Annf
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:18 am
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"Entire Tokyo publishing industry migrates to Saitama, Tokyo economy crushed"
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dormcat
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:37 am
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Annf wrote: | "Entire Tokyo publishing industry migrates to Saitama, Tokyo economy crushed" |
Let's see if the Prefect of Saitama would announce a "welcome" statement.
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PetrifiedJello
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:00 am
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dormcat wrote: | I'm a bit surprised to see the forum of ANN so quiet on this... |
Why? Unless the bill affects people personally, no one else gives a damn.
As for Kadokawa's actions, this isn't the way to address the bill and it only serves to affect those anime fans who are going to the fair.
Personally, I find it poetic justice Kadokawa, as well as other publishers and distributors, find themselves on the receiving end of facing a group who seeks only to control content regardless what the market wants.
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GWOtaku
Joined: 19 Jul 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:24 am
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PetrifiedJello wrote: |
Why? Unless the bill affects people personally, no one else gives a damn.
As for Kadokawa's actions, this isn't the way to address the bill and it only serves to affect those anime fans who are going to the fair.
Personally, I find it poetic justice Kadokawa, as well as other publishers and distributors, find themselves on the receiving end of facing a group who seeks only to control content regardless what the market wants. |
I really hope I'm interpreting this wrong and you aren't attempting to draw an analogy between opposing internet piracy and what could arguably become legalized, excessive regulation of creativity.
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bayoab
Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:40 pm
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PetrifiedJello wrote: | As for Kadokawa's actions, this isn't the way to address the bill and it only serves to affect those anime fans who are going to the fair. |
Kadokawa probably had a more behind the scenes influence but their actual floor presence didn't have that much for the fans outside of their goods store which had a few special guests.
Quote: | Personally, I find it poetic justice Kadokawa, as well as other publishers and distributors, find themselves on the receiving end of facing a group who seeks only to control content regardless what the market wants. |
You are definitely talking about some other company which happens to be named Kadokawa as opposed to Kadokawa Shoten which gets and doesn't get the internet at the same time.
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Blood-
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:03 pm
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I agree with Petrified Jello that boycotting displays at an anime fair really only punishes the fans who plan to attend the fair.
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Buuuuuuut don't let it get around that I agree with something he wrote, mmmkay?
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Nemo_N
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:17 pm
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dormcat wrote: | I'm a bit surprised to see the forum of ANN so quiet on this "declaration of war" or "Seven Days of Fire has just started" (as described by East Asian anime fandom). |
For the few comments I have seen in the past, some think this whole law thingy is not such a big deal (wishful thinking) and even if it turns out to be a big deal, it's all good because it'll annoy pedophiles (also wishful thinking).
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Nemo_N
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:20 pm
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Blood- wrote: | I agree with Petrified Jello that boycotting displays at an anime fair really only punishes the fans who plan to attend the fair. |
Since TAF is supported by the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, I suppose the point is to keep fans from attending.
It's not like Kodokawa products can't be bought somewhere else though.
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Daemonblue
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:37 pm
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I think it's less about people not caring and more about people tired of discussing it. Sankaku also has a lot of articles relating to this, as well as some of Ishihara's very controversial statements (telling people who read manga to get girlfriends and that homosexuals are pitiful and genetically defective). If you hop over there you'd see that there are already tons of comments for some of the other stuff, so as I mentioned it's not that people don't care
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PetrifiedJello
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:17 pm
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GWOtaku wrote: | I really hope I'm interpreting this wrong and you aren't attempting to draw an analogy between opposing internet piracy and what could arguably become legalized, excessive regulation of creativity. |
Rest assured my remark had absolutely nothing to do with piracy.
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egoist
Joined: 20 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:24 pm
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Guys, there's no need to insult the old man.
This says everything we need to know about him:
Quote: | Policies as governor:
Set up the ShinGinko Tokyo bank to lend to SMEs in Tokyo. This bank has lost approximately 1 billion dollars worth of taxpayer's money through inadequate customer risk assessments |
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