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HaruhiToy



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:29 pm Reply with quote
I have read that this snack has become popular in the U.S. because it keeps appearing in anime. So when it appeared at my local Safeways I tried it and it seems like a nice little snack.

Unfortunately you should not be eating it. It is made with hydrogenated oils -- an unfortunate import to Japan which nobody should be eating. So I am not buying it again and neither should you.
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DuelLadyS



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:42 pm Reply with quote
Eh, I like Pucca better anyway. (Not sure if it's better for you or not.)

Pocky is one of those things I see people being excited to get, and not following the interest. This is proably becuase it's readily available where I live- every Safeway (and many other grocers) carry both chocolate and strawberry, and a quick visit to one of the many, many Asian groceries will turn up other flavors, like almond, orange, and Men's Pocky (aka dark chocolate, and notable mostly for the silly name.) I suppose I'm just lucky in that I don't have to wonder about most of the treats that turn up in anime- I just go find them. Melon bread is good, by the way- but only when's it's fresh. Otherwise it's just squishy. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:44 pm Reply with quote
I'm really starting to think that your post is just spam. So what if its unhealthy? Its JUNK FOOD. Potato chips are far worse for your health along with other fatty foods.. I've been eating Pocky since I was 5 and I highly doubt I'll stop eating it just because of this "shocking" news.

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egoist



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:50 pm Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
Unfortunately you should not be eating it. It is made with hydrogenated oils -- an unfortunate import to Japan which nobody should be eating. So I am not buying it again and neither should you.

Keep in mind that some people (like me) don't care about a healthy lifestyle. I first learnt about this snack when I watched Onegai Sensei. Even up to this day, despite my wish to try every grocery at least once, I've yet to taste it. Indeed, anime and its offsprings are pretty limited here. No worries, my death's been delayed by ages so I plan to visit Japan at least once to try everything out before I depart this world. Razz


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PiercingArrow



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:52 pm Reply with quote
I started buying Pocky ever since i first saw it on Please! Teacher/ Please! Twins Series. But yea, i dont really mind about it, even if it has something on it that could kill me someday. I buy like 10-20 packs every 2 weeks(Mostly Mens, Mix Berry Flavor & Strawberry) and it was probably the most addicting snack i have ever eaten for a long time.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:24 pm Reply with quote
I also probably first saw Pocky in its Please Teacher (never heard of a show called "Onegai Sensei", though) appearance. Kids at conventions love the stuff, and it probably does better for vendors than anime DVDs do these days. Heck, at one Anime Iowa event, they had a Pocky slingshot to shoot it out into the crowds. I have to wonder if those box corners held potential for injury Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop I've tasted Pocky a few times, but I never saw the mass appeal.

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Unfortunately you should not be eating it. It is made with hydrogenated oils -- an unfortunate import to Japan which nobody should be eating. So I am not buying it again and neither should you.
Doesn't pretty much everything contain hydrogenated oils, partially or otherwise? Why shouldn't we be eating them? What if we want to live deliberately unhealthy self-destructive lifestyles?
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HaruhiToy



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:44 am Reply with quote
Zalis116 wrote:
Doesn't pretty much everything contain hydrogenated oils, partially or otherwise?


It can seem that way, but it is possible to avoid them. Good snacks would be made with palm oil, coconut oil, or some other saturated fat. Lard would be good but people are too terrified of it due to being inundated with misinformation for decades. Hydrogenated oils were designed to replace those natural saturated fats and manufacturers like them because they are cheap.

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Why shouldn't we be eating them?


Hydrogenated oils (which are trans-fats) look a lot like saturated fats for the purposes of cooking, but they behave much differently in your biochemistry. Consuming them results in metabolic dysfunction, obesity, cancer, heart disease, and a host of other problems. After recommending and facilitating their use for decades, the scientific evidence piled up so high that even the FDA was forced to issue a statement that no amount of trans fats in the diet are safe.

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What if we want to live deliberately unhealthy self-destructive lifestyles?


You tell me.

Maybe you are currently young, slim, fit and attractive at the moment, and you think none of this will catch up to you. Lots of people smoke cigarettes, take dangerous recreational drugs and seem to get away with it. So go for it.

A decade or two down the road when the doctor gives you the bad news or perhaps you don't need a doctor just a mirror to see the bad news, you might regret not having paid attention when it would have made a difference. Or not. Unless you have specific questions my job is done here.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:11 am Reply with quote
Zalis116 wrote:
I also probably first saw Pocky in its Please Teacher (never heard of a show called "Onegai Sensei", though) appearance. Kids at conventions love the stuff, and it probably does better for vendors than anime DVDs do these days. Heck, at one Anime Iowa event, they had a Pocky slingshot to shoot it out into the crowds. I have to wonder if those box corners held potential for injury Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop I've tasted Pocky a few times, but I never saw the mass appeal.


lol, Onegai Sensei is the Japanese "translation" of Please teacher. Onegai=Please, Sensei = Teacher translated
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:37 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
A decade or two down the road when the doctor gives you the bad news or perhaps you don't need a doctor just a mirror to see the bad news, you might regret not having paid attention when it would have made a difference. Or not. Unless you have specific questions my job is done here.


The thing is, these facts that you present are readily available for anyone who wants them. People have always done what isn't good for them. The way I see it is, I smoke and drink (but very very rarely eat junk food; still the point I'm making is the same) but I also regularly work out, run and do mountain climbing once a week. You could say yeah I'm fit but I can be thin and still have a heart attack or get cancer. My answer is, I don't really care. It's about balance; I could have 40-50 stress free and enjoyable years of life and die then, or I could live til 80 healthily but spend all that time worrying about what I'm consuming or about all the little ingredients that go into my food. Maybe it's because I feel that life is overrated, but I'm not really concerned.

I mean sure people eat junk food and don't exercise, and they get obese and stuff like that; but as far as I'm concerned that was their decision. People know that McDonalds, Doritos, and Pocky is bad for them; they know the cause and effect of eating trans, sat and unsat fats, salt and sugar too regularly and/or without exercising. They know that smoking, doing recreational drugs and drinking alcohol leads to cancer or potential accidents or organ failure. If they accept the risk to enjoyment ratio and just factor it all into their life, then who cares? If they don't factor it in; again, who cares? People make their own decisions.

I get that you're trying to help or whatever but people know exactly what they're doing when they chow down on snacks or smoke or drink or whatever. They know it ain't good for them.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:12 am Reply with quote
Gotta join the so what bandwagon here. I mean what junk food is healthy? If it's healthy it's not JUNK food now is it? What candy isn't junk food? Show me one and I'll show you a bad tasting snack then heh. I gotta think though that on a whole compared to other snack foods out there the hydrogenated oils in pocky rate rather low on the health scare meter. Especially given the actual mass of just 2-3 pocky sticks. Eating a handful of greasy potato chips or movie theater popcorn slathered in butter (fake butter) has got to still be worse. Plus as the old saying goes all things in moderation.
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RHachicho



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:28 am Reply with quote
Aye it's true that people make their own decisions. But why chide the op just because his view on life dousn't co-incide with your own? I am sure Haruhitoy was just tryin to be helpful Smile

Theres no need to get all uppity and yell "don't make our decision for us" I could understand if he was throwing around judgemental crap. But all he has done is provide information from his perspective.

Personally I am overweight I smoke but I only drink socially about 1/month. I eat alot but I generally avoid junk food. I am one of those people that long ago decided that food if done right was better than sex and got good at cooking. I have not regretted that decision. Especially since I live in Essex/England and frankly the thaught of being married to any of the women round here scares the crap outta me. That would take more years of my life than a tonne of poky Anime hyper.
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The Xenos



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:31 am Reply with quote
I haven't had Pocky in years. It's very overrated. It seems like such a novelty when you first eat it, but it got old for me fast. Men's Pocky (Darker Chocolate) and some others were interesting to try.

Yet there are plenty of other Japanese snacks to try, even other Japanese junk food. There's a bunch of gummy candy that I love. I would rather spend money on those.

Plus to me one of the best Japanese foods is takoyaki, fried balls with chunks of octopus. The Japanese cafes (here in America) that friends and I visit about every week have them and at least one of us orders them each time we go.

And don't even get me started on Japanese bakeries... Actually the one I just finished was from a Korean bakery down the street that I picked up last night and had in the fridge. Though i did pick up a Japanese raisin.. croissant.. thing at the Japanese bakery earlier today.

tldr: There's much better Japanese food, even dessert and snack food, than Pocky.

Though, I should add that went I went to Japan I did take a pic of this. Behold! A Pocky truck!
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MisterEd



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:13 pm Reply with quote
Pocky is junkfood and everyone knows that. Just like chips, sodas, and ice cream, Pocky isn't a very healthy snack. That being said, if eaten in moderation, it doesn't really pose any problems.

I don't know why you're posting health advice in an anime forum, but seriously dude, you should get off your high horse. What right do you have to tell people what or what not to eat. Pocky is a cookie covered in chocolate, of course it is unhealthy. If someone wants to have it as a main part of their diet, that's their prerogative.

I'm going to agree that Pocky is just a novelty, to me at least. I don't care for it that much.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:05 pm Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
I have read that this snack has become popular in the U.S. because it keeps appearing in anime. So when it appeared at my local Safeways I tried it and it seems like a nice little snack.

Unfortunately you should not be eating it. It is made with hydrogenated oils -- an unfortunate import to Japan which nobody should be eating. So I am not buying it again and neither should you.


Because I've been studying nutrition over the years and recently took a nutrition class, I can safely say that cardiovascular disease is the number one killer in the United States of America. But it's the number one preventable disease in America as well. Meaning a person will die of cardiovascular disease more than being killed by a gun, bus, car, blunt force trauma and smoking cigarettes.

However, despite being easily preventable, most Americans (especially the younger crowd) don't eat all that healthy. I have a friend who really struggled with eating healthy and eliminating unhealthy habits. Took him three months of vigriously working out daily and completely changing his diet, but he lost over 50 pounds.

But he never made excuses or gave up, which from I've seen happens quite often. I realize food can be expensive (I know a retired grocery manager who often talked about his job), but it's not nearly as expensive as most think it may be. For only one dollar, you could buy several produce items than you could for heart attack inducing junk food.

However, no matter how much information is given, there will always be people that will listen no matter what. You could literally spend hours, upon hours telling a person how to eat properly, the benefits of eating healthy food and how it will improve their life, but it won't matter if the person doesn't want to change their ways or refuses to even listen to any information.

So that is why I don't really care about what anyone eats. If your under 18, that is your parents job. If your over 18, that is your job and solely your job. You want to eat nothing but sugar and chips? Knock yourself out, but I personally would never do it. That type of lifestyle comes with a barrage of dangers. And some of them can instantly kill you when you least expect it.

America is all about freedom and once your 18, you can do anything you want. Of course, there will always be consequences no matter what. I recommend eating healthy food and taking care of oneself, but I can only give suggestions. Ultimately, it's the person choice what they want to do. And no, pills can't cure everything and that is likely to never change.

So in a nutshell, eating healthy has a massive amount of benefits, but a person must be willing to change and stick to it if they want to become healthier. No can force you to change, even if they are a doctor or parent. That is one responsibility a person must do alone.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:44 pm Reply with quote
I'm with Psycho on this one. I like Pocky, I buy Pocky, I eat Pocky. I know it's not good for me, sweets in general are not good for me, but I still like to have one from time to time. The reality is that just about all mass market baked goods contain hydrogenated oils of some form. It is true that they are very bad for you but, unless you want to make all of your cookies and cakes and pastries and so on yourself, they are difficult to avoid.

What to do? Moderation, of course. If you're going to pig out on the stuff constantly you deserve what you get, but if you make an effort to keep your consumption in control the effects won't be as bad as they could be.

Do I use hydrogenated oils at home? No. Would I use them in a restaurant? No. Do I eat them from time to time? Yes, though I make a conscious effort to not eat them all the time.
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