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DrizzlingEnthalpy
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:54 am
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Nice of Japan to buy more Blu-rays of anime than it does DVDs. I can't wait for standard definition to be phased out entirely. Which will probably take around ten to twenty years.
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_V_
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:59 am
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Rebuild of Eva 1.11 was the first Blu-ray I ever got:
mark my words: Rebuild of Eva is going to be for Blu Ray what The Matrix and LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring were for DVD in 1999-2002 -- the movie that finally made you go out and switch to the new platform
but with sales this good....they'll have no reason to lower their licensing fees.
Rumor mill already had it that the asking price they set for Eva 2.22 is *the highest in the history of the R1 North American anime market*...and with sales this good, there's no reason for that to change.
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hissatsu01
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:37 am
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_V_ wrote: |
mark my words: Rebuild of Eva is going to be for Blu Ray what The Matrix and LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring were for DVD in 1999-2002 -- the movie that finally made you go out and switch to the new platform
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Umm, no. Not in the US. Maybe amongst anime fans it might push some to switch formats, but I very much doubt it's more than a blip in total blu-ray sales when compared to even a mildly successful Hollywood film.
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BeanBandit
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:40 am
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_V_ wrote: | but with sales this good....they'll have no reason to lower their licensing fees.
Rumor mill already had it that the asking price they set for Eva 2.22 is *the highest in the history of the R1 North American anime market*...and with sales this good, there's no reason for that to change. |
You know what though with the HK subtitle version coming out at the end of June I'm not worried about 2.0 coming out over here as much. I got the Japanese blu ray already with the HK sub version on the way so I'm in no rush for a NA release. Honestly I hope Funi is smart enough to wait, as wile it will probably sell respectable numbers I dont think it will sell enough to match the crazy amount of money the Japanese end wants for it, plus whatever crazy theatrical demands their trying to impose. (On a sidenote I heard the first theatrical run packed theaters in Canada. I went to the showing here in Toronto and it was crazy packed, same in Calgary were my brother saw it).
Either way it's unfortunate but personally I can wait this one out, especially since I'm in no rush to see this dubbed as I personally thought Funimation butchered the dub on the first film (and I'm a dub fan who liked the original ADV dub of the TV series). I just hope people are not sitting on their thumbs and not buying Funi's 1.11 release as I'm sure the better that sells the faster/more likely 2.22 will make it's way over (I bought 1.0/1.11 three times over myself).
hissatsu01 wrote: |
_V_ wrote: |
mark my words: Rebuild of Eva is going to be for Blu Ray what The Matrix and LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring were for DVD in 1999-2002 -- the movie that finally made you go out and switch to the new platform
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Umm, no. Not in the US. Maybe amongst anime fans it might push some to switch formats, but I very much doubt it's more than a blip in total blu-ray sales when compared to even a mildly successful Hollywood film. |
Pretty sure he was referring to anime fans and not a mainstream US audience. I would hope it would make anime fans go out and switch over to blu-ray as it's the only way to watch that film (and wile your at it buy Akira on blu as that film blew my mind watching it in HD).
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Djisas
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:44 pm
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_V_ wrote: | Rebuild of Eva 1.11 was the first Blu-ray I ever got... |
Same here, got the movie from amazon and then bought the BD drive...
If they would do their own English subs for the dvd/bd and release it internationally at a fair price, they would have sold 3 millions already...
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Battle Cossack
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:43 pm
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_V_ wrote: | mark my words: Rebuild of Eva is going to be for Blu Ray what The Matrix and LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring were for DVD in 1999-2002 -- the movie that finally made you go out and switch to the new platform
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The Matrix and Lord of the Rings were not released in a stagnant economy. Both films beat the stock market crash in 2002, and even after that, lots of money acquired through mortgage refinancing and home equity loans were sunk into home theaters. Nowadays, even though APR's are still low, banks scrutinize credit scores more closely than ever, and are enabling fewer and fewer people to purchase luxuries on borrowed money.
Even beyond the discrepancies of economic climate, has any anime in America ever performed comparably to either of those franchises? I'd like to see some numbers, because I have doubts that the sequel to a remake will find an audience beyond the esoteric anime niche, especially since the film won't stand on its own like Ghost in the Shell or Akira. Frankly, I think 2.22 would do better when the general interest of anime in America is at a peak.
Since 2.22 depends on the familiarity of a franchise, this film is instantly that much less accessible to the mainstream than Matrix and Fellowship, even more so when you consider the decrease of mainstream interest in Anime from a few years ago. Although I think that 2.22 will definitely sell well and galvanize the American fan community, it's unrealistic to suggest that it would sell expensive hardware as well as a couple of the highest grossing films of all time.
EDIT: adjusted the year the "dot-com" bubble burst.
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theblackpaladin
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:59 pm
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M...MUST...HAVE...ENGLISH...DUB!!!!!
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prosumer
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:33 am
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1.11 was such a great release. I won't ever think about trying to get anyone to watch the original series with me again. A great summation, incredible quality.
As I recently posted, of the ~840 blu-ray releases from Japan, only ~50 have english subtitles. I really want all releases from Japan to have subs. After decades of licensing anime for western releases, the U.S. anime industry has never been able to get anywhere near 100% conversion. So many titles languish.
Therefore I will make it a point to purchase the Japanese HD releases where English subtitles are included. Evangelion 2.22 happens to be one of those.
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eyeresist
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:13 am
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DrizzlingEnthalpy wrote: | Nice of Japan to buy more Blu-rays of anime than it does DVDs. I can't wait for standard definition to be phased out entirely. Which will probably take around ten to twenty years. |
By which time there'll be an even higher definition format available - hopefully
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_V_
Joined: 13 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:07 am
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hissatsu01 wrote: |
_V_ wrote: |
mark my words: Rebuild of Eva is going to be for Blu Ray what The Matrix and LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring were for DVD in 1999-2002 -- the movie that finally made you go out and switch to the new platform
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Umm, no. Not in the US. Maybe amongst anime fans it might push some to switch formats, but I very much doubt it's more than a blip in total blu-ray sales when compared to even a mildly successful Hollywood film. |
....I meant among anime fans
as for "it packed theaters" - you went when it first came out. It wasn't an actual "theatrical run"
It only ran on a few screens, because Khara/NTV basically forced FUNimation to run it in theaters...as a matter of prestige or something
They literally thought "well this was the #1 box office movie in Japan, it will also be in America"...and FUNimation pleaded with them that "no one in the USA has heard of Evangelion besides niche anime fans, its not big enough to sustain a national release on the scale of a Miyazaki film, even Miyazaki doesn't do comparably as well in America, please don't do this"
they did anyway; FUNimation lost A LOT of money running it in theaters -- even a limited number, but I'm not sure if they really made back the cost of making movie-prints.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:48 am
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_V_ wrote: |
as for "it packed theaters" - you went when it first came out. It wasn't an actual "theatrical run"
It only ran on a few screens, because Khara/NTV basically forced FUNimation to run it in theaters... |
This is correct for the US theatrical release (where the widest releaes was 6 theaters in a week), but the poster who talked about the theatres being packed was from Canada, and Eva 1.0 had around 50 theatres in Canada where it was playing if I remember right.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:34 pm
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Megiddo wrote: |
_V_ wrote: |
as for "it packed theaters" - you went when it first came out. It wasn't an actual "theatrical run"
It only ran on a few screens, because Khara/NTV basically forced FUNimation to run it in theaters... |
This is correct for the US theatrical release (where the widest releaes was 6 theaters in a week), but the poster who talked about the theatres being packed was from Canada, and Eva 1.0 had around 50 theatres in Canada where it was playing if I remember right. |
In this case, I think he was talking about "North America" in general. Those theaters still had a rather limited run
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