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Sustain the Industry: 1-Year grand total is $47,352.69.


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mglittlerobin



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:01 am Reply with quote
People argued about STI for ages, but the grand total of all the video responses after one year is $47, 352.69. Can't complain if you're an anime company. Fans do spend money and that proves it.
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The King of Harts



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:23 am Reply with quote
I cant really say I'm impressed. I don't know how many people took part in this, but if it's, say, a thousand, then that's only about $50 per person. Even a hundred is less than $475.

Then there's the fact that there is no one "industry". There are dozens of companies, so that's immediately thinned out, making it smaller per company.

And we don't know how many used sales are in there. Companies don't make money off of used sales.

So yea, not impressed.
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Shenl742



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:24 am Reply with quote
Every little bit helps I guess.

I myself have just archived my 50th order at Rightstuf.com (since my joining in December, 2008)
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:07 pm Reply with quote
This is the first time I've heard of this thing... maybe that's why it's not a super lot.
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SalarymanJoe



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:41 pm Reply with quote
mglittlerobin wrote:
Can't complain if you're an anime company.


Um, there's plenty to complain about. Don't get me wrong, it can be a nice salary depending on where you live, but if you're a business and that's you're revenue? It's still pretty small. Even knowing how small the anime industry is, I'd have still expected revenues to exceed 50k.

FAKE EDIT: Where are you pulling this information? I had to google 'Save the Industry anime' to find this ANN article and this Japanator article, before knowing to search on Youtube, where I had 1500+ responses. If the >48k figure you're pulling is just from posted Youtube videos, I could see the industry being a bit larger.

The King of Harts wrote:
Then there's the fact that there is no one "industry". There are dozens of companies, so that's immediately thinned out, making it smaller per company.


Companies and organizations make an industry. There is an anime industry - it involves production houses, licensors and retailers. Just as GM, Toyota and Mercedes are all a part of the Auto Industry or Apple, Google and Facebook are all a part of the Tech Industry.


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ArsenicSteel



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:01 pm Reply with quote
mglittlerobin wrote:
People argued about STI for ages, but the grand total of all the video responses after one year is $47, 352.69. Can't complain if you're an anime company. Fans do spend money and that proves it.


We already knew fans spend money or else the anime industry in America would not have made it this far.

Depending on the number of people involved that 47k could be an impressive or ineffective year-end tally.
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mglittlerobin



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:55 pm Reply with quote
Why's everybody a sour puss? For a fan based initiative in it's first year, it's a decent number.
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Mushi-Man



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:16 pm Reply with quote
mglittlerobin wrote:
Why's everybody a sour puss? For a fan based initiative in it's first year, it's a decent number.


I'm being a "sour puss" because although it's nice, it's not really that great of a number. I mean don't get me wrong, it's really great what these people are doing to help out the industry but we can't start holding up a number like this like it's a mission success. But this is promising, I'm looking forward to see how this grows. Thanks for the info.
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Nayu



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:13 am Reply with quote
Wow, I spend that by myself in two years.

Not impressed.
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PBsallad



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:52 am Reply with quote
SalarymanJoe wrote:
FAKE EDIT: Where are you pulling this information? I had to google 'Save the Industry anime' to find this ANN article and this Japanator article, before knowing to search on Youtube, where I had 1500+ responses. If the >48k figure you're pulling is just from posted Youtube videos, I could see the industry being a bit larger.


Must be somewhere on Youtube. I added the numbers from the "official site" and it about $22,913.88.
http://www.keepanimealive.com/sti/
http://www.keepanimealive.com/sti/sti_session.php
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The King of Harts



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:22 pm Reply with quote
mglittlerobin wrote:
Why's everybody a sour puss? For a fan based initiative in it's first year, it's a decent number.

That's the problem: No it's not. I'm being a sourpuss because you, and I imagine everyone else that took part in this, are impressed with an unimpressive number. Like I said, when you spread that out between each person, how many used items are in there, and how many companies are involved and how much they're involved (how many Funimation purchases versus Section23 ones), it's a really small number.

And Nayu makes another point. As a collector who spends thousands a dollar a year on my collection, I'm not easily impressed, especially not by a group of people who spend a fraction of what I do.

They make these videos to gloat about how much they spend and how much they buy and how awesome they think they are for "supporting the industry", but if this is the fruit of their labor, it's nothing to gloat about.

Again, knowing the number of people involved in this makes a difference. A thousand people? That's not great. A dozen or so? OK, now I'm impressed and I'll eat my words.

SalarymanJoe wrote:
Companies and organizations make an industry. There is an anime industry - it involves production houses, licensors and retailers. Just as GM, Toyota and Mercedes are all a part of the Auto Industry or Apple, Google and Facebook are all a part of the Tech Industry.

I did word that very poorly. The point I wanted to make was that it's not one entity benefiting here. The anime industry isn't a hive and different companies benefit differently depending on what's being bought and from where.
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ethanftw



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:31 pm Reply with quote
I'm actually impressed. I think people on here are taking the number as like "well every single anime fan in the entire world participated in this, so 47k is pretty bad". Which is completely false.

This was a rag-tag operation by some people on Youtube. I guarantee if you asked a lot of hardcore fans, some of them probably never even heard about it. This was simply some people getting together to support anime.

47K is a lot of money from what this was. It was just an example of people need to do. I don't know about you guys, but I buy anime almost every month and I never once participated in this. Therefore all my money didn't get figured into the total.

This isn't a sum of all the profits, it's a group of people's spending. Jeez. Take it for what it's worth.
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The King of Harts



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:49 pm Reply with quote
ethanftw wrote:
This was a rag-tag operation by some people on Youtube. I guarantee if you asked a lot of hardcore fans, some of them probably never even heard about it. This was simply some people getting together to support anime.

Really? Because I think getting front page exposure on the largest anime site in North America is a pretty big deal and I'm sure it helped them get a couple more people to join in.
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larinon



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:31 pm Reply with quote
mglittlerobin wrote:
Fans do spend money and that proves it.

I think this is the part of the movement that I don't understand. What makes people think that the companies have no idea how many copies of their releases are being sold? Or how much money they are making?

Rather than trying to prove that people are buying anime, the push should be to encourage new people to buy anime instead of simply pirating. If that really is the goal of this campaign then it needs to be more direct.
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ethanftw



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:08 pm Reply with quote
The King of Harts wrote:
ethanftw wrote:
This was a rag-tag operation by some people on Youtube. I guarantee if you asked a lot of hardcore fans, some of them probably never even heard about it. This was simply some people getting together to support anime.

Really? Because I think getting front page exposure on the largest anime site in North America is a pretty big deal and I'm sure it helped them get a couple more people to join in.


Yes, but what I'm saying is that not everyone participated. Not even close. And those that did, probably most of them didn't participate every single month either.

I know I spend a hundred dollars or so every month on anime, and while that isn't very much compared to a lot of you that is still around $1,200 a year. That didn't get figured in the total. I'm sure a lot of people on here spend a lot more than that, and didn't participate once.

I guess the way I see it is, saying that totaling up 47k from fans buying anime and then calling it a low number is like raising money for a charity and then saying "wow, that's a low number". People did what they could I suppose. I just don't see the use in putting it down.
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