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neocloud9
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:12 pm
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Well, the Secret of Kells should win. But Pixar will probably get the Oscar again, as usual.
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Brand
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:19 pm
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Yeah I would have to say I can already see UP being the winner.
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darksharingan
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:30 pm
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I don't understand why ONLY childrens fantasy win Oscars, Akira is dubbed the greatest animated film of all time by many and it probably is, but that would NEVER win an Oscar even if it was new and got an American release on time. Steamboy nor Metropolis would get the honor, GITS would never get a nomination.
Spirited Away and Ponyo, not that they're bad or anything, just for meeting the 'children's' standard get the nominations, in my opinion, to put rules on a category kills the artistic side of it.
But I wanna know, how the hell is Astro Boy even being considered to be nominated? That movie was panned like hell! It seems the Oscars is getting stupider every year, they put action movies up for best picture, now they nominate shunned movies? Wow, the Oscars really means nothing anymore. If only Richard Burton was still alive.
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darkstar
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:35 pm
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I've never heard of some of those & when was there a 2nd CHipmunks movie made??? Not that I ever really cared to see the first one.
I'm not up on the rules & regs but it sounds like they have to be released in theatres to be considered - didn't Tinkerbell just come out on a direct-to-video release?
*shrugs* I do not get the whole process & think the academy needs to have their heads examined for some of the films that end up getting nominated and/or winning.
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Wrial Huden
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:39 pm
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It's a crowded field, to be sure.
As some of you already said, UP will probably take the Oscar. "9" might get a nomination, but it'll probably be considered a dark horse. At least it can't be considered as strange as "Paprika" (yes, I know that was from a few years ago).
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vashfanatic
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:44 pm
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neocloud9 wrote: | Well, the Secret of Kells should win. But Pixar will probably get the Oscar again, as usual. |
Clips I've seen make me really want to see "Secret of Kells." It's nice to know somebody outside of Japan is still doing awesome 2D animated films. That said, Pixar is pretty much the shoe-in every year; "Cars"must really have sucked for it to have been overlooked. At least this year I think their film is a truly excellent one rather than being just the best due to lack of competition.
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neocloud9
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:57 pm
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vashfanatic wrote: | Clips I've seen make me really want to see "Secret of Kells." It's nice to know somebody outside of Japan is still doing awesome 2D animated films. |
It truly deserves to be recognized. I hope it at least gets nominated. And, y'know, it'd be nice to have a DVD release too...
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Great Rumbler
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:00 pm
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Wrial Huden wrote: | It's a crowded field, to be sure.
As some of you already said, UP will probably take the Oscar. "9" might get a nomination, but it'll probably be considered a dark horse. At least it can't be considered as strange as "Paprika" (yes, I know that was from a few years ago). |
9 was received with a big 'Meh' from critics and audiences. It really doesn't have a chance to win.
Probably the only movies with an outside shot are The Fantastic Mr. Fox [Wes Anderson's first animated movie], Ponyo, The Princess and the Frog, or Coraline.
With Up being the favorite to win.
Those five will probably be the nominations, assuming that at least 16 films are accepted.
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okitasan
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:08 pm
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The best animated film category is such bs.
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LKK
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:22 pm
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darkstar wrote: | I'm not up on the rules & regs but it sounds like they have to be released in theatres to be considered - didn't Tinkerbell just come out on a direct-to-video release? |
Yes, films have to have a theatrical release to be considered for Oscars. The catch is that the theatrical release doesn't have to be nationwide. It only has to occur in certain cities and only for a very small period of time. I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if Tinkerbell had a small limited theatrical release simply to qualify it for Oscar contention.
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Romuska
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:22 pm
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I'll be rooting for Ponyo. I too think the category is bs. I think I would feel differently if great animated films like Spirited Away and WallE were also nominated for Best Picture.
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:23 pm
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The real story is that one of these films could get nominated for Best Picture, too. And that hasn't happened since Beauty and the Beast. Lasseter might have some Miyazaki-love, but will that still hold in the face of pressure to have the Mouse House dominate the latter category for that year?
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Vapors
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:28 pm
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darksharingan wrote: |
But I wanna know, how the hell is Astro Boy even being considered to be nominated? That movie was panned like hell! It seems the Oscars is getting stupider every year, they put action movies up for best picture, now they nominate shunned movies? Wow, the Oscars really means nothing anymore. If only Richard Burton was still alive. |
This is submission to be eligible to be nominated, nothing has been nominated yet. They are simply tossing their hat into the ring to see if something shakes out. Considering, the quality of the other nominees, their chances are pretty slim they make it to the final group.
darkstar wrote: |
But I wanna know, I've never heard of some of those & when was there a 2nd CHipmunks movie made??? Not that I ever really cared to see the first one.
I'm not up on the rules & regs but it sounds like they have to be released in theatres to be considered - didn't Tinkerbell just come out on a direct-to-video release?
*shrugs* I do not get the whole process & think the academy needs to have their heads examined for some of the films that end up getting nominated and/or winning. |
You probably have not heard of some of these due to the fact that some of them have not even been released yet and/or they are small independent works that probably will not be played outside the LA/NY areas. As for Tinkerbell, the rules state that any film to be eligible needs a qualifying run in LA or NY for a week. That is probably what happened with Tinkerbell. The popular theory to Oscarwatchers is that Disney really, really wants Princess and the Frog to be nominated and thus put a film out there just to bump up the number of eligible films and increase the nomination field. And you are not alone in thinking that some chocies are odd, but the Academy is a private group and they can cobble together whatever "best" list they want.
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Hexon.Arq
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:45 pm
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IMO, the first half of Up is superb and deserves something, even though I haven't yet seen Secret of Kells, which looks awesome. The second half left me a little cold and bored; the whole thing thus assembled leaves me with something of which I don't know quite what to make. I'm pretty certain Up will win. I don't know if the Oscars ever carried any suspense or if I simply grew out of it, but I'm pretty indifferent about this category this year.
But A&tC2:the Squeakquel? Is that not only half-animated? Does it even count?
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Starre257
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:05 pm
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I'm rooting for Ponyo... UP will probably win, but eh.
(I'm kind of ashamed to admit this, but Ponyo is the only one on that list that I've even seen. I'm really looking forward to The Princess and the Frog, though. I want to see Secret of the Kells, too.)
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