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isaacada1
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What are people's thoughts about these publications?
AmeriManga http://www.ironcat.com/titles/index.php?series=amerimanga Mangaphile http://www.radiocomix.com/mangaphilecatalog1.html Mangazine http://www.antarctic-press.com/series/mangazine/mangazine.htm Rising Stars of Manga http://www.tokyopop.com/news/mangatalent/index.php |
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Hotaru
Posts: 481 Location: NY |
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What do you mean, exactly? I've heard of Mangazine, and of course the Tokyo Pop rising stars contest cause my bf is entering, but I don't know about the other two.
I think it's a good idea, though that manga companies are beginning to look into American manga artists for publication. Adam Warren is so popular, but, IMHO, he sucks. He's a wanna-be manga artist, who just fits into the stereotype of big lips, eyes and breasts. But anyway, what do you mean, exactly? ;P |
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Emerje
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Well, they're good comics, but I'm one of those sticklers that just hate seeing the words anime and manga attached to anything that isn't japanese by nature. Mind you, I don't hate them, just their use of the words, but that's just me.
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genericanimefan
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I think that the terms "manga influenced" or "manga style" are better suited for non-Japanese comic authors who draw the Japanese style. I define manga and anime as comics and animation originating from Japan.
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Tempest
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Yes, Fred Gallagher has been careful to call Megatokyo "online Anime/Manga Doujinshi" as opposed to simply "online manga." I will in fact be visiting this isse (again) in an editorial soon. |
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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Some people point out that "manga" and "anime" are the Japanese terms for comics and animation in general. Since Japanese folks would call a Disney cartoon anime and an issue of Eightball manga, it isn't worth sweating blood over.
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caulfield
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Is that true? But isn't there a scene in Otaku no Video where a fanboy angrily explains to a judgemental drunkard that there is a difference between cartoons and anime? And I think someone told me once that the word "anime" was coined by the French specifically referencing Japanese animation... Could have been unreliable though.
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Case
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Can you please just read this thread, so I don't have to listen to someone go into Berserker-rant mode AGAIN? Thank you. |
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Tempest
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Not quite. It's been proposed (see the links) that the Japanese word Anime was derived from French.
Also worth reading, this lexicon entry. |
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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So while using the terms anime and manga to refer to non-japanese product is technically accurate, in common english parlance it can be confusing.
I like the term Amerimanga for western-drawn comics in a Shonen Jump style, but maybe Gaijin Manga would be better, considering that there America does not constitute the entire Western world. |
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genericanimefan
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Technically, there is no difference between cartoons and anime since they both fall under the animation category. However, I consider animation that is labeled "anime" as being of Japanese origin. Confusing, yes? For example, if Cowboy Bebop was written and animated over here in the United States, then I wouldn't consider it "anime" even though it would be in that style of animation. Another example would be if the evil empire of Disney  decided to pack up and move to Japan and animate their next film with a Japanese staff, then the said film would be considered "anime" since it originated from Japan.
So, even though Japanese animation has a definite identifiable style, I still can't bring myself to call any animation outside of Japan "anime".
Hey, I like the Gaijin Manga term as well. It immediately indicates that the art will be in that style, but at the same time, it's identifying itself as Japanese. |
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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I didn't come op with the term Gaijin Manga myself. I can't remember where I picked it up from, though.
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caulfield
Posts: 80 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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I see...
This reminds me of that bitter argument in the world of online comics when Scott Kurtz (PvP) drew a distinction between independent and alternative comics. It all boiled down to semantics. I didn't mean to attempt and stir up any senseless old debates about the meaning and etymology of the term anime, and I applogize for my possible carelessness. GenericAF brings up an interesting point... Neither of the examples alone would probably be considered "anime" by the global fandom. The true definition then of genuine anime exists out of context in a vague intermingling of criteria from both. |
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ANN_Bamboo
ANN Contributor
 Posts: 3904 Location: CO |
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 Weren't you the one that gave me the lecture awhile ago about going into rant mode? Told ya the stress builds up.
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Emerje
Posts: 7386 Location: Maine |
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Personally I go by the whole concept that the distinction between cartoons and anime is solely used outside of japan. In japan anything that's animated is anime, outside of japan it's only anime if it comes from japan, otherwise it's a cartoon. Same goes for comics and manga. Keep in mind that within japan they listed Tom and Jerry as one of the top anime ever, but outside of japan it would have never even been in the running.
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