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JoAnn Cumming
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I think Goku naively thinks the whole destroying the losing universes is just to get them to fight with all their might, and for all we know, this might be true. I think I read the losers of this match will get erased, so after the match when the Trio de Dangers or even all of Universe 9 get destroyed, Goku realizes that this shit is for real.
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Marimo0
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Seems like it's not just a trick. In fact Zen-oh was even planning on eventually destroying some universes anyway. Goku actually kind of helped his universe since the tournament seems like a chance to help save his universe despite it being considered the second worst.
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Treecko Tempo
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Did anyone else find it hilarious when Beerus and Supreme Kai started playing the blame game.
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Black Turtle
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Sam Leach
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Maybe "morals" wasn't the right word choice, but Super's *thing* so far has been its self-awareness. I really do think they want to get something out of the irony of our hero being inherently selfish. Not necessarily anything deep or dramatic, but something. |
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Saku-dono
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So it's been a while since a while DBS live on TV. I am always a Gohan fan, yet I am still feeling sick of his treatment from the DBS makers. Yeah, it's a draw but Gohan is still weaker than his SSJ2, that's for sure. It'll take one heck of a drastic happening, i.e I think Mr. Satan's demise could even ignite his inner strength, but we all know that won't happen. The point here is... Goku is already guaranteed to win his every matches given losing is not an option. So what will it take for Gohan to get his glory back? Killing Videl or Pan is the most impossible twist or them losing the tournament is not even remotely plausible. There's literally no chance for him to go back being a badass if this keeps going on and that's annoying.
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penguintruth
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I enjoyed episode 80. It was good to see Gohan really back in action, and against a unique opponent. His techniques were nothing special, mind you, and could have used a bit more variety, but there were some good moments, like him just flying straight through the cloud and grabbing his opponent. I also enjoyed Goku's positive reenforcement and the bit at the end where Whis was amused at being made an exception from erasure.
The "average score" of universes amused me, too, because it looks like Universe 7 poured all its points into a handful of beings, rather than spread them out like many of the others. |
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#844391
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yea, the universes are ranked based on their average score as opposed to the outlers. Granted, We've already seen Hit who is stronger than goku. Remember during the tournament he didn't use any lethal moves on Goku, and he technically killed goku during his assassination, he just never followed up to finish him off after he revived himself. Gokue wasn't able to actually stop his attack.
So it's definitely not far fetched to assume there are even stronger fighters out there. Honestly though, aside from buu, vegeta and goku, it's hard to take any of the other Z-fighters seriously. The next closest would be android 17 and 18 and even they are below SS2 in power (which is probably somewhere around where gohan is now). I have a feeling they'll just get paired up against the weaker members of the other teams. But aside from all of that, I am super excited for another DB tournament. |
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Topgunguy
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I really wanted to start watching this (dubbed) but when I learned about Vegspoiler[it's retcon], which took away from his appeal, I have lost all interest. Who's the idiot that okayed that? I want to break his nose.
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jymmy
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... want to try that again? |
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GhostD
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Many have been guessing what the basis is for the universe scoring system. Some is say its on how strong the mortals of a universe are. Personally I think its on their development as mortals but thats just me basing it on what they said especially when Beerus and Kaioshin were playing the blame game. Beerus blamed him for sitting back and choosing to let mortals develop their planets on their own. The theory on the mortals' power is apparently because there are so many weak guys in universe 7. Countless worlds and fighters fell to Freeza in his first form let alone his final form and then theres Buu who caused so much destruction before being sealed away. In the end until they confirm which theory is right or if theres a different one altogether all we can do is guess but Im just giving my 2 cents |
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Black Turtle
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But still, that would be destroying Goku. Being a warrior that love to fight strong ennemies, no matter what. If you make him become the perfect hero, you destroy everything. Up until now, the whole show without being totally bad, failed to get the DB/DBZ vibe. I feel like they've been struggling for a while to get it right, but realised they were someway off. That's why they brought Future Trunks back, and annouced C17. Both are highly popular, and they're trying to get the DBZ feel back. But they failed up until now. The whole future arc, without being a total failure, didn't catch that vibe (at least not totally). As many said, there was a problem of stakes. It never felt like loosing would be bad. Even in the Future arc. I mean, all those back and forth in time just destroyed it. If at least they would have been stuck there, that would have worked. But no, they could easily flee in security as soon as it became dangerous. Goku proposing the Mafuba was out of character. Trunks ending the fight with the "power of human thing" that defeated zamasu was also moronic. And Zeno destroying the future was just "wait what? you didn't really thought this through and just improvised, right?". It's not that the idea are totally bad, but the way they deal with it is wrong. It fell in average shonen tropes, already too often seen. Overall, it's enjoyable, but through the whole show, there as been little things that felt off. (and we're not gonna talk about the power lvl part of Fukkatsu no F arc, it's ridiculous. Krillin fearing trashmobs, Gohan and Piccolo stupidly low power, Freezer attaining SSG lvl in a few month). In the end the only arc that felt totally right was the Universe 6/7 tournament. I'm not against going to new places, but they can't totally change the character for that. And changing Goku's way would be the worse error ever. |
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Kanou_Kyosuke
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My belief is that fight sequences, animation, video editing are fa4 better than previous arcs had. It is a lot better and fun to watch. Enjoying a lot.
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#844391
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ep 81,
I really like how they turned things around and emphasize how single minded goku is, he really doesn't give a shit about anything other than what interests him (fighting and food I guess). It definitely makes him look like the bad guy (and isn't even completely wrong). The fact that he had to go super saiyen blue + kaio ken + kamehame against what is considered the weakest universe makes me wonder what he'll be using against stronger opponents. Isn't that kind of his strongest combo? I really like the battle royal idea, it really mixes up the whole usual tournament thing. That and the fact that you know every other universe is going to be gunning for universe 7 right off the bat. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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He didn't *have* to use his strongest combo to win. He did it because he told the Zen-ohs that he would go all out and hold nothing back. This also gives everyone an idea of just what they're going to be up against.
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