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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:14 pm
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chrisb wrote: | I think the only time Akane takes an active role in any of the fights is in the old OVA when she pairs up with girl Ranma to fight her long lost “sisters.”
At least Shampoo and Ukyo seem to have more standout moments in the anime and movies. |
Akane defends the Dojo once against a girl who fought using traditional games, no idea if its Anime OG.
Anyways, no idea if its the same in the manga, but in the anime Akane's role was being damsel in distress or an all rounder terrible wife material, the series wouldn't even let her take a hit, I think she is the only character who never receives colateral nor direct damage, Raman always shields her and takes the hit for her.
I am 100% sure she is the only fighter who never gets "launched" by a punch or a kick into the air, stuff like her noticing Ranma winning the fight against Mikado or the nice moves she pulls while fighting idiots in episode 2 quickly goes away and becomes a muscle head fighter who tries to use brute strength in every possible activity she gets herself into.
It was part of the series weird treatment to her, every character was treated with looney tunes physics, but if ANYTHING resembling physical damage would go in Akane's direction the series immediately turns in the most realistic thing ever and it's a huge drama.
I hope its different this time.
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tintor2
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 5:18 pm
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Two other new stolen kisses in another episode, more weirder reactions. So Akane never about Ranma being kissed by a dude which traumatized the guy but Shampoo's moves on the guy breaks him. And Ranma's sensitive reaction to stolen kisses is also inconsistent too. What fight also became more of a comedy with Ranma and Ryoga's antics again ven though the former's body was wounded. If Akane didn't have the endurance or power to fight like Kagome, removing her from the fights again it would make sense but this is the second Time Takahashi does the same with her Even though she fits
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ZelosZoidberg
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:55 pm
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Along with Ryoga, Shampoo was the English VO I was most interested in hearing because Shampoo speaks simple (broken?) Japanese/English and was wondering how they would approach it and seeing who would do it. It's Grace Lu (she mostly does Video Game VO's with Persona 3 Reload being her most recent role along with a role in Inside Out 2) and I think she's doing a great job because damn She makes Shampoo scary! Was that an actual Chinese language?
As for the Episode, I kinda forgot how it ended both in the Original show and Manga. It's kind of forgettable except the part where Ryoga as P-chan saved Akane so for the first long arc of the series it starts well but doesn't stick the landing, pun somewhat intended. Shampoo is maybe my 2nd favorite girl (Ukyo is not coming for quite a bit if I remember correctly) and well besides the flashback part we just had a very small tasting of what she's like. I think this is my least favorite episode sadly even if we did get Shampoo. But I have high hopes for the next episode.
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Shay Guy
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:33 am
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ZelosZoidberg wrote: | Shampoo is maybe my 2nd favorite girl (Ukyo is not coming for quite a bit if I remember correctly) and well besides the flashback part we just had a very small tasting of what she's like. |
Ranma, on the other hand, seems to have tasted her very thoroughly.
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LoopyChew
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:25 am
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ZelosZoidberg wrote: | Was that an actual Chinese language? |
That was Mandarin. And while I can’t tell you if it’s well-acted Mandarin, it is comprehensible as Mandarin, which is more than can be said for the JP seiyuu.
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tintor2
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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:44 am
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I have been reading comments from manga readers. Apparently, the Deen version made poor changes to the first series like making Ranma more of a jerk, Akane more tsundere and the designs in general more sexualized. This makes the original Ranma Akane relationship far more ideal in the manga rather than toxic in Deen's. For example, there was an early episode from Deen where Ranma downright sings about how Akane is not a cute girl. Now I look forward to Mappa's take but I wonder how far are the antics with Shampoo gonna develop. I remember a friend showed me Akane's reaction to that stolen kiss in the manga and....
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WatcherZer
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:54 am
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Shampoo's tribe are the Joketsuzoku or literally 'village of women heroes', but in all practical effects they are Amazons, a society where all women are raised as warriors and the primary quality sought in a baby daddy is martial strength. The only male of the tribe ever seen is Mousse (no adult men are ever seen) but it does demonstrate that they do have men in the village which are also raised as warriors, in mythology the Amazonians returned sons to their fathers, they didn't allow adult men to live in the village.
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ChirashiD
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:08 am
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Diehard Shampoo fan here
WatcherZer wrote: | Shampoo's tribe are the Joketsuzoku or literally 'village of women heroes', but in all practical effects they are Amazons, a society where all women are raised as warriors and the primary quality sought in a baby daddy is martial strength. The only male of the tribe ever seen is Mousse but it does demonstrate that they do have men in the village which are also raised as warriors. |
Not that it matters, these references to China were Japanese versions of whatever the actual Chinese words would be. They used the original name for the Accursed Springs (but it's a Japanese word), maybe Joketsuzoku just doesn't have a ring to it like Jusenkyo (though I recall the names of the specific springs were in Chinese in the English dub).
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Shay Guy
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:51 pm
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ChirashiD wrote: | Not that it matters, these references to China were Japanese versions of whatever the actual Chinese words would be. They used the original name for the Accursed Springs (but it's a Japanese word), maybe Joketsuzoku just doesn't have a ring to it like Jusenkyo (though I recall the names of the specific springs were in Chinese in the English dub). |
It is a bit of an oddity that "Jusenkyo" is pronounced with the on'yomi, but the spring names are in Mandarin, or at least the best Japanese approximation thereof (written with romaji in translation instead of pinyin -- Nyanniichuan vs. Niángnìquán). We don't say that Ranma went to Zhòuquánxiāng and fell in the… I dunno, Nyounyousen?
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tintor2
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:54 pm
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Man. The tsundere violence in this episode escalated a lot. Maybe if Ranma wasn't kept getting his head hit he would have been able to save Akane from suffering amnesia. The chase scene felt like padding.
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ZelosZoidberg
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:21 pm
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Now that I've heard Lu as Shampoo more, I love Shampoo even more and while this is the same ol' Ranma 1/2 dance that repeats itself even late into the series to a fault it's by far my favorite of the remake! The bit with P-chan where even Ranma is freaking out that Shampoo may have just committed murder unknowingly gave me another 1 year of life or less depending on how much laughter is a bad thing. 5/5!
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Piglet the Grate
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:02 pm
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Review wrote: | For a bit of historical context: fans went to war about whether Shampoo's hair was blue or purple. |
For the young'uns: Quite silly back in the day, since the NTSC broadcast standard then used in Japan and the USA was mockingly known as "Never Twice the Same Color", as well as significant changes in color as one played with the settings on the television.
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Otaku-sempai
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:46 pm
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ZelosZoidberg wrote: | Now that I've heard Lu as Shampoo more, I love Shampoo even more and while this is the same ol' Ranma 1/2 dance that repeats itself even late into the series to a fault it's by far my favorite of the remake! The bit with P-chan where even Ranma is freaking out that Shampoo may have just committed murder unknowingly gave me another 1 year of life or less depending on how much laughter is a bad thing. 5/5! |
If Shampoo had killed Akane, I don't think it would have been an accident. The whole "Kiss of Death" think, ya know?
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fuuma_monou
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:05 pm
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Otaku-sempai wrote: |
ZelosZoidberg wrote: | Now that I've heard Lu as Shampoo more, I love Shampoo even more and while this is the same ol' Ranma 1/2 dance that repeats itself even late into the series to a fault it's by far my favorite of the remake! The bit with P-chan where even Ranma is freaking out that Shampoo may have just committed murder unknowingly gave me another 1 year of life or less depending on how much laughter is a bad thing. 5/5! |
If Shampoo had killed Akane, I don't think it would have been an accident. The whole "Kiss of Death" think, ya know? |
I think ZelosZoidberg is referring to Shampoo cooking P-Chan, not knowing he's a cursed human.
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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:12 pm
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In LATAM Shampoo spoke broken like 2 episodes and then the dubbing team dropped the whole thing and she spoke normally for the rest of the series.
I wonder what they are gonna do now.
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