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penguintruth
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Yeah... I don't hear any Jouji Yanami in Schemmel's Kaio. I hear Don Brown. Now, if only Brice Armstrong was still voice acting, he would make a great Kaio.
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Animeking1108
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Maybe R. Bruce Elliot? The guy is basically Bryce Armstrong's understudy. |
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BadNewsBlues
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The lisp. |
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rinkwolf10
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Being "simple" doesn't stop puberty. Just saying. Goku sounds like he never hit puberty and that's retarded no matter how you try to validate it. |
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Mewzard
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People can have higher voices, they don't all get deepish post-puberty. Look at Mike Tyson. You could try to make fun of his voice, but he'd break someone's face. |
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penguintruth
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Goku was nearly a teen at the beginning of Dragon Ball. He was at least twice the age Gohan was when Nozawa started voicing him (he's four at the beginning of DBZ). He always sounded younger than he was. |
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rinkwolf10
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And how does your point even contribute to rebutting my point? Let's go that route then, if Goku always sounded younger than he was, than why is there absolutely no change to his voice between his preteens and his 30s. That's beyond sounding younger than you actually are and dwells in to the realm of ignoring anatomical facts for just one character so that you can make a metaphorical statement about said character. To make Goku come off child like you just have to make his actions and words fit that description, not try and associate a higher pitched voice in a mans body to portray the fact that the man is child like. That is paper thin and ridiculous way to go about it. It simple and clear that you are just fallowing blindly and having a plasibo effect to what the voice should sound like (Mangaka likes it I should like it as well) instead of using your brain and thinking how it can even make sense that a person has not hit pubety since he was about 11 to well into his 30's. On top of which, it's not even used a physical attribute in the show but it's used as a metaphor to show that he is child like? Really, do you not see how retarded that is. Also, on your point about the mangaka stating that is the way he envisioned Goku sounding and that means he MUST sound that way and that it's the best way to make him sound. When in reality, that simply isn't true, just because he created the character doesn't make him a expert on voice acting and directing. He may have a preference but not a professorial aptitude, it's like when Hollywood actors go into signings and their fans believe that they are good because they were great at acting so they can't possible be bad at singing. That is the same thing I'm seeing here. A Mangaka make a great character and story. You love it and praise him for it. Then states his opinion on the matter of how the character he envisioned should sound and you don't ever stop to think maybe he doesn't have the professional aptitude to make a good choice since this is his creation and he must be right. However, his creation and reality don't always sync up and this is a classic example of where a person with authority but no professional aptitude goes into a field and makes highly specific and important decisions based on his feeling and it fails. Manga and anime are too vastly different medians. Just because you excel at one doesn't grantee your success in the other. There are things that a animator/directer can do better and make better choices in then the original creator of the story to better fit the median of anime. However, you just want to stay blind to the possibility that Goku's voice was a non-expert decision made by a person you respect, thus you try to validate their choice instead of admitting that they may have not been qualified to make a proper choice. Now this doesn't mean that you can't like it, however, it also doesn't mean it makes sense and is the best choice possible, heck as it's been pointed out already, most English speaking fans prefer Goku's voice in English to his Japanese counter part. You tell yourself what ever you have too, but that is a true you can't deny (not that you won't try). Last edited by rinkwolf10 on Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:09 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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penguintruth
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Nozawa's adult Goku sounds older than her child Goku. It's a natural evolution of that voice. |
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rinkwolf10
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Not to anatomically correct levels it isn't so no it isn't "natural evolution of that voice" but rather a "unnatural evolution (if there is even any) of that voice). You have variations to voice tone throughout the day depending on what you were doing. Point is there isn't a change to Goku's voice between this preteen self and adult self that makes anatomical sense. An act only present in Goku as the other characters seem to actually age in their voice. |
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penguintruth
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FFS, there are many beefy people with higher than average voices. What matters with Goku is not his physicality, but his personality. And there's nobody who delivers his lines with as much charm and personality as Nozawa. |
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AnimeLordLuis
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I don't care about subs so I'll just wait until the Funimation dub of Super comes out.
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Kadmos1
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Crunchyroll has gotten what it would be a Holy Grail for Funi to license. Congrats.
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DmonHiro
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No, most AMERICAN Englsih speaking fans prefer Goku's voice in English. Nobody I know preffers the English voice. |
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peno
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@Rinkwolf Toriyama did not choose Nozawa to voice Goku, he simply approved her after she was chosen to voice adult Goku through auditioning, which, I am sure, included director, producer(s) and I expect other anime professionals who worked on Dragon Ball back then. So please stop insulting Toriyama-sensei, thank you very much.
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SageModeKakarot
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getting back on topic of the streaming services
Daisuki is also streaming to the UK
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