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penguintruth
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This is ludicrous. Not wanting to be abused by greedy corporations isn't "entitlement" whatsoever. The companies can make a tidy profit without overreaching, but the gullible "limited edition" collectors are playing into the allure of shiny boxes and worthless trinkets. I won't be accused of selfishness just because I don't want anyone to pay too much for so little content. The people who will pay it are part of the problem and no amount of hand wringing over justifying your poor purchasing strategies will convince me otherwise. It doesn't make much sense that "the collector's market" are the people who pay MORE. The collectors are the people who pay less so they can buy more volume. Because they want to collect more. I have hundreds of anime DVDs. I'm the collector, not the dope who pays 90 dollars for a 90 minute movie. They're more interested in the prestige than the product. |
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Angel M Cazares
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The thing that I dislike the most about Aniplex USA's pricing controversy is the insults coming from both the detractors and the supporters of AoA's business model. It is possible to defend your position without being rude and condescending to people.
I am in a favorable economic situation (and no, I am not rich) to be able to once in a while buy something from AoA. I don't want anyone insulting me because of how I choose to spend my money in my hobby. At the same time I don't want anyone telling me why I should never question all the businesses practices of AoA or Ponycan USA. Not all the stuff they sell is worth the asking price to me. I was interested in buying Garden of Sinners on DVD in lieu of BD, but the DVD box set that AoA offered was very expensive. The ridiculous packaging, pricing and lack of a dub is why I don't want to buy Sound! Euphonium from PCUSA. |
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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I'm neutral on a dub either way.. This series is really good..
Then I get further down the article and read Aniplex has it... bummer yet another title I will never own. I can't justify spending the Aniplex asking prices.. They got me on Fate/Zero and UBW.. and they will probably have me on Charlotte... but regular releases... no thanks. |
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DuchessBianca
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Oh get off your high horse.... Look I completely agree that AoA's prices as a whole are a turn off to many, It's a darn shame that many wont ever be able to afford their sets and the wonderful catalog they have, and I TOO don't like their prices as I'd much rather be able to get 5-6 titles from Funi or Sentai then drop $300 on a single title from AoA, but I RESENT being told that I'm a "problem" that I'm "Gullible" that I have "poor purchasing strategies" I'll do whatever the hell I want with my money as all of it essentially goes into supporting the NA anime industry. Like angelmcazares says below there's nothing wrong with questioning AoA (or Ponycan's) decisions and certainly not every title is going to be worth the asking price to everyone. As someone who vastly prefers english dubs over Japanese dubs there are many AoA (and Ponycan) titles I'll never buy because paying $3000 for a sub only series in which my enjoyment is going to be severely hindered by the lack of an English dub is something I'll never be able to justify. On the other hand I own all of the Fate Zero, UBW, SAO, Madoka, Blue Exorcist, Kill La Kill and a few other LE's and they have very much been worth what I paid for them as they are ALL absolutely fantastic series in my opinion. I'll decide for myself what I consider to be "shiny boxes and worthless trinkets" and wont tolerate being belittled and berated because I Dare occasionally support and purchase titles from a particular NA anime company.... Getting mad and insulting anime fans for supporting and purchasing titles from a NA company is just embarrassing. I would LOVE for AoA's prices to lower but the fact that many people who complain about them forget about is that they are at the will of AoJ, every move AoA makes I'm willing to bet has to be signed off by AoJ. So for as long as Japan is obsessed with reverse importation fears and continues to charge more then double AoA for EVERY anime, AoA will be forced to charge the prices it does because unlike Funimation/Sentai who can do what they want, AoA is a subsidiary of AoJ so getting mad and calling those who purchase AoA pruducts is just silly..... The NA market is by far an afterthought to Japan. If AoA titles don't sell AoJ will just close them up and the title will stay in Japan ONLY. Is that what you want? The only think gullible is thinking that not buying AoA products and yelling at AoA about their prices is going to get them to lower them. As much as I wish they were lower and those who complain its too expensive have a right to that belief, unless AoJ changes its ways AoA is NOT going to be able to change. |
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Gemnist
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Only the licensor does the dubbing. This is sad though, as many unlicensed shows ultimately face the wrath of not getting dubs, with GOOD series like Konosuba and Kabaneri even getting the bucket. This is why I hope that sites like Crunchyroll start making their own dubs - and why AoA needs its own dubbing company. |
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Afezeria
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@DuchessBianca : Well said.
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Zalis116
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Shiroi Hane
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I kinda want to hear Crispin doing the ep11 monologue.
Erased won't have the same bargain price as Madoka in the UK; Anime Limited have it and their initial release will be a Ultimate (£100-150 RRP) or Collector's edition (~£60/70). No-one in Australia has announced it yet (although it is streaming on AnimeLab). |
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Kadmos1
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I am definitely going to want to read the manga and watch the anime before watching the dub. Given the reception this series has, you have to make sure you are as faithful as possible. If they have it available on Hulu, I will watch that because I rarely get anime DVD/BDs anymore and am not going to pay those AoA prices.
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Alabaster Spectrum
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They do, they're an incredibly arrogant company that will even celebrate their own series in PR releases when it's clear nobody else is. They pretty much proclaim everything they do as a masterpiece epochal hit on the back of their Japanese BD packaging gaining something of an infamous reputation in Japan for it. Their whole business model is based around convincing people they have the most amazing must have master class works out there and then holding the licenses for those franchises hostage and charging ridiculous out of market prices for them or doing things like splitting them up into multiple parts like a DLC scheme. It's like they took the worst aspects from the Japanese Idol Music industry and American Triple A gaming scene and married them together for an approach that works on many but which I'm glad I'm immune too personally. I tend to make my own judgments on things leading to very different assessment of value compared to many fans, I get called all sorts of names for it too which is kind of childish but like whatever. I left childish schoolyard peer pressure concerns behind a long time ago even if I still haven't completely lost all my love for Asian animation just yet.
I honestly don't know how so many people can continue to buy into their bullshit marketing and business practices in 2016 even as the overall quality of their investments as a prolific production committee member have dropped off significantly as the decade has gone on and they've realized that people in the anime community are gullible as sin and then can earn just as much by targeting whale fanatic fans of certain kinds of content and people in the LN/VN scenes. All this has lead to what I see as a rapid homogenization and shrinking of the potential fanbase for anime over the course of the decade to the point where it's basically pigeon holded itself in a way I don't know how it gets itself out of. They just make things so much shittier for the potential of anime as a whole in so many ways but considering they practically have the current fanbase brainwashed to the point where they think people that protest against it are "haters" and the bad guys in this situation it just looks hopeless for the industry to escape from their clutches. I feel like lately I'm just waiting out the inevitable for the rest of the industry to collapse in an inability to keep up with the big money, greed and self interest of the Aniplex's of the scene. |
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