Forum - View topicINTEREST: Keyakizaka46 Idol Group Members' Nazi-Like Costumes Raise Eyebrows
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Kadmos1
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This is why it is dangerous for ANN to run these politically-related news stories. However, at least we have been keeping it somewhat civil thus far.
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MugenSetsuna
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Oh, who cares, get over it! It shouldn't matter. Let them do what they want to do. I can guarantee you anyone seeing it has never actually been around long enough to be so reactive. It's a costume. End of story.
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southplumb
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I guess the costumes aren't that close to Nazi uniforms but were they meant to appear Nazi-like to people who haven't looked carefully at historical uniforms? Whether it is the case here or not, there does seem to be a lot of glorification of Nazi Germany in Japan and the US, compared to glorification of opponents like the Soviets, Maoist China, the DPRK etc. Nazi Germany might be portrayed in fiction as evil to some extent, but they are also portrayed as efficient and intelligent, though they were completely defeated after several years because of their own mistakes and built on a base created by Weimar Germany. It could just be that Nazis are easy to dislike and were soundly defeated in a romanticized war (and in the case of Japan, they were allies, and the US is their new ally and can't be criticized heavily), and the Cold War and now a new "cold war" is too recent and not romanticized, but sometimes it seems like glorification, and that might be why Nazi symbols and ideas are somewhat common in the US, even if real neo-Nazis aren't. Consider all of the tattoos, graffiti, historical flags for sale, praise of Nazi Germany in schools and online, etc. In some ways Nazi symbols are used as a symbol of rebellion. The Soviets/Russians, Koreans, etc. are also used as villains and could be glorified too sometimes, but the stereotypes associated with them are often not about strength or skill, though they were more successful in war and peace than the Nazis, despite Germany having the advantage of advanced industry and an educated workforce. Or compare the depictions of Nazi Germany and militarist Japan in fiction.
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Surrender Artist
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Oh wow is it ever getting 2016 in this thread.
[Extraneous content mostly removed to distill the post down to the heart of its message.] What's the next level up from 'erring toward unease'.
There are few surer hallmarks that somebody is a jackass spewing intellectual sewerage than this kind of pre-emptive declaration of persecution.
That is not how language works. You don’t get to magic away a word, much less a concept, with some weirdly self-serving nonsense rule that you made up. Could you, and everybody like you, just go away... I mean from humanity. |
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TarsTarkas
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It was still a mainstream comedy taking place in NAZI Germany, with NAZI soldiers. Such a TV comedy show could not be made today, because of our current PC culture. And if the United States can make a comedy taking place in Germany with NAZI soldiers, then there should be no problem with a bunch of Japanese Idol singers wearing military garb that is reminiscent of NAZI military dress. |
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Crisha
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@Zweitestshall - You created a second account because we weren't approving the posts on your first account. You are soapboxing and trolling, and I have deleted your most recent post and put this account on moderation as well.
Also, this thread has been derailing for a while, so I'm just going to lock it. |
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