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FenixFiesta
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"ONLY 8k" probably has more to due with the nature that Japanese Blu-ray/DVD prices are absurdly expensive and only the most die hard of fans would be willing to fork over that much money just to have a series on DVD/Bluray. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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My point is, if a show like PP was something everyone was desperately waiting for, 8k would be awful numbers. I think Shingeki is more what I could use as an example, and it helped to have a hit manga before the show aired, and that it's about as deep as a puddle.
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vanfanel
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Too many people are mistaking extreme content for maturity, when all too often it represents the exact opposite. Jojo, for example, is fun, but absolutely nothing about it is mature -- if anything, that show seems remarkably in touch with its inner demented five-year old (that's an observation, btw; not a criticism).
And I don't get what this director is complaining about regarding censorship. Graphic violence? We got that in Jojo and Hunter x Hunter right now. Nudity? That's all over late night anime now as well, and those beams of light blocking out the details are not censorship; they're a way to entice the truly sad to shell out 7,000 yen for the "uncensored" blu-ray. Solid storytelling? Let me direct you to Space Brothers, Cross Game, Hyouka, and Kids on the Slope. Want to go a little more art-house? Try Hyouge-mono, Flowers of Evil, or the current Ping-Pong. Otaku shows that are actually good? Madoka Magica and Fate Zero are still in recent memory. All kinds of stuff is getting made. Most of it is same-old same-old (fetish-of-the-week for the late-night otaku crowd; shonen jump/card fight stuff for kids), but that is compost from which flowers do occasionally bloom. Sturgeon's law applies, but we've still got the 10% that isn't crap; a better signal-to-noise ratio than that is not the norm; it's a golden age. The parade of fanservice and bizarre fetishes in late-night anime is a turn-off for me, and the explosion in the number of card battle shows eating up the kids' timeslots is depressing and worrisome, but to suggest that nothing "mature" can get made anymore is just ridiculous. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Yes, clearly there's no reason companies wouldn't do this. It's not like a major reason for many of these shows airing is to promote other things like light novels, manga or games and selling them as OVAS would completely defeat that purpose. Saying "hey, just change to this completely business model that was basically abandoned a decade ago for a reason" isn't a particularly useful suggestion and just dodges the issue. That said, as I mentioned before, I'm still not sure what exactly they can't get away with on late night TV. At least for fanservice of the sexual variety, censoring the TV broadcast doesn't seem like a particular negative for the creators since it encourages purchase (or at least rental) of the BDs. I think censoring violence can serve this purpose as well. Fate/Zero had some pretty nasty stuff (and the manga gets truly vile; I can't see that getting an uncensored release in the U.S.) that they just censored around. Unless they consider roasting children alive or having on-screen child rape to be some integral part of the story they can't censor or have happen off-screen, I don't see what's even holding them back. Unless maybe they consider they kind of violence censorship Brynhilder has to be a problem that encourages them to not air many of them in the first place, but again, it's not like it's worse than anything Psycho-Pass did as far as I've seen of both. And in both cases, such issues are unlikely to be the main reason larger audiences aren't interested in anie. |
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Hoppy800
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I want Bullet Girls so bad and it's filled with fanservice and may surpass Senran Kagura but both revolve around it and it's not tacked on like some games just for sales. Japanese video games are pretty much at the point of no return, games require pandering elements to even sell 2000 copies. It's even worse for mobile, where no one even wants it unless it has something cute for the 20 something mainstream female audience or be designed for Otaku. |
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Mohawk52
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What Fukuda and earlier Miyazaki are railing about is the in-fighting between the people who think of anime as only a business and therfore only do it as a job, and the creatives that think of it as a vocation. They both have a point when the biggest boxoffice earners of anime since the 1980's has been Studio Ghibli films shown in cinemas first and foremost before being released into the "media mix" and are still in the minds of the masses when titles that are blatant "otaku pandering" are not selling and forgotten after only three months. There are too much of latter and not enough of the former. Until anime as an industry can rebalance this somehow we could be seeing the beginning of the end of anime as we know and love. Last edited by Mohawk52 on Wed May 21, 2014 4:59 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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mdo7
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@Mohawk52: Glad you and I share this same thought. I'm not really happy with most of the anime coming out right now. Like I mention, there's only quite a few anime I like coming out, now I just finished watching Idolm@ster (which I thought was decent), and Wake up Girls (probably the best idol-themed anime out there, I love the storyline in that one so much). There's some few other anime I'm planning to watch. But yeah it disapoint me that most of the anime coming out these day are just fanservice (and moe) anime and less on the innovation/creativity on the storyline. This is the reason I don't watch a lot of anime coming out these day.
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Parse Error
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Space Brothers was made for mainstream timeslots, Sunday morning at first, and then 5:30 PM on Saturdays. Anime that air at such times are driven by ratings and the corresponding advertising revenue, so they benefit from broad appeal. The type of anime you are complaining about airs very late at night or the wee hours of the morning, and sometimes only on premium channels. They have to peddle merchandise to otaku, because there usually aren't enough "normal" people watching a channel during those hours to make much money from standard advertisements.
IIRC they tried that again more recently, with Bodacious Space Pirates and at least one other, which I think was Rinne no Lagrange but I can't remember for sure. |
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penguintruth
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The problem isn't "too many boobies" in anime. The problem is that it's abused by hacks that make it like rattling keys in front of children. Shows based entirely around fanservice, that revolve solely around premises that give an excuse to use it. I guess you can say looser restrictions would just make that worse, but I think it would help the better things rise to the top as the trash sinks further and further with ludicrous plotlines.
The Woman Called Fujiko Mine, for instance, was sexed up intensely, but I rarely saw anything in it as simply being specifically pandering, time-wasting fanservice. You saw Fujiko's breasts frequently, but it was all in the way they handled it and the solid storytelling that wove it in naturally. It wasn't candy-colored flesh peddling, it was a little sad, but beautiful. The show is perhaps a bit lurid, but somehow not cheaply. But no amount of restrictions loosening would make Fukuda's work any better. A show about giant candy-colored robots pounding each other as men explode in a future beset by genetic engineered supermen and fantastical racism doesn't need a lot of sex appeal. It needs better writing. |
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Lavnovice9
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That's not what he said at all. Stop trying to twist this man's statement for your own agenda. He said NOTHING about fanservice or otaku. He said anime has stricter censorship these days. |
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lostrune
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What Americans call fanservice and pandering, the rest of the world just sees as the natural human body
 Europe, Japan.. They're not as hung up at seeing a woman's cleavage as Americans are and don't make a fuss like you see here. And if you're expecting anime to cater to American puritian tastes, you'll probably be waiting awhile.
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Cptn_Taylor
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No, what I'm saying is that Fukuda is blaming the wrong cause for modern anime woes. |
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Hoppy800
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Some BDs jip the customer out of the fanservice they deserve, Ro-Kyu-Bu for some reason had no nipples, and instead it's uncensored to a normal anime level of censorship, all it did is remove sunflowers, a little soap, and steam but the steam and soap existed in many scenes. $300 worth of BS. |
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jet_
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@ Mohawk52 and mdo7:
If your problem with recent anime is that there's too much fanservice and "moe", then the problem lies with you, not with the shows. I don't know where you learned what "moe" is, but to everyone who does not frequent 4chan or Sankaku Complex, moe is the feeling you get for a character whose character traits appeal to you. If you call the characters in, for example, Is The Order a Rabbit "boring moeblobs", then that just means that you're too shallow to see the depth in the characters. Literally every anime has moe. The amount of sexual fanservice shows versus the amount of shows that does not use sexual fanservice as its main thing is very low. Stop acting as if anime is dead. |
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Mohawk52
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